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Am I a "dumb-ass" for thinking this?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by JeromeH, Dec 19, 2014.

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  1. Dec 19, 2014 #1
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    I'm trying to build a "stack" on a "low budget" saw a Fender 2-8 cab in the classifieds here. Could this work or is it just stupid? I have a Hartke 7000 head on it's way to me 350 watts at 4 ohms x 2. I currently own a Genz Benz 115 combo ( could just use it as an 8 ohm 115 cab) & an SWR workingman's 210 (also 8 ohms) Would adding the 2-8's and another 210 (both 8 ohm) just be crazy??? No I won't be buying an "Ambelic" bass anytime soon!!! Looking to "low ball" the whole set-up!! (By necessity not choice!!)
     
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  2. Dec 19, 2014 #2
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    Sure it'll look like crap but how do you think it will sound??? If you think I'm sounding "clueless" your probably right!!!
     
  3. Dec 19, 2014 #3
    B-string

    B-string

    Nov 21, 2008
    Lake Havasu City, Az USA
    Asked Magic 8 ball will it sound okay: Said "TRY AGAIN". Asked if it would good: Said "TRY AGAIN". Asked if it would sound bad?: Said "TRY AGAIN". Magic 8 ball busted :(
     
  4. Dec 19, 2014 #4
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    I never said I was 'smart" just "good looking"!!! So "dumb idea?" or "just so crazy it might work?" And it even made my head spin when I read what I wrote!! I was just in my own "alcohol induced" semi-******** way trying to figure out how to max out the amp "cheap"!!
     
  5. Dec 19, 2014 #5
    B-string

    B-string

    Nov 21, 2008
    Lake Havasu City, Az USA
    You miss understood the humor. No way to know ;).
    If it was me I would try it, but I enjoy making the most out of what is on hand :D.
     
  6. Dec 19, 2014 #6
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    I don't think I misunderstood you! I thought the same (almost immediately after I hit "enter") I sounded a little "whacked" I was sitting here (with a beverage) looking at my GB amp and 210 cab and started thinking! well that's 4 ohms now I need 4 more to get the full power from the Hartke amp!
     
  7. Dec 19, 2014 #7
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    Talking me out of a "stupid" move is not a bad thing!!!!
     
  8. Dec 19, 2014 #8
    B-string

    B-string

    Nov 21, 2008
    Lake Havasu City, Az USA
    Well, adding more speakers usually means more sound. Stop thinking of "getting the most power" out of an amp. Watts don't make sound, speakers do. It takes a big boost in output power to make a difference in sound level IF your speakers can use that power. It is a futile chase.

    Speakers are much better at dissipating waste heat from the "watts" sent them than making actual sound. That is why adding more speakers works better, less power is used for waste heat.
     
  9. Dec 19, 2014 #9
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    The amp is 350w x 2 (bi-amped) at 4 ohm 240w at 8 ohm what would be a good speaker set-up for it? I was thinking a 410 4ohm for the highs and a 210 4ohm for the lows? or should it be the other way around?
     
  10. Dec 19, 2014 #10
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    or 2 410's?
     
  11. Dec 19, 2014 #11
    B-string

    B-string

    Nov 21, 2008
    Lake Havasu City, Az USA
    Other way around! You need speaker displacement for the low end. That would be the 410. Highs are much easier for the human ear to hear so less power and less speaker area is needed.
     
  12. Dec 19, 2014 #12
    B-string

    B-string

    Nov 21, 2008
    Lake Havasu City, Az USA
    Two 410 cabs, no point in running two 410 full range cabs in a biamp. Just run both cabs "dual mono" full range.
     
  13. Dec 19, 2014 #13
    B-string

    B-string

    Nov 21, 2008
    Lake Havasu City, Az USA
    A 410 cab for the lows with the 2X8 biamped high might be interesting.
     
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  14. Dec 19, 2014 #14
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    Makes sense! I just started playing again after a 15yr hiatus I used to use a Hartke 410xl for the highs and a 115 JBL for the lows just cause it made "sense" to me at the time
     
  15. Dec 19, 2014 #15
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    That was w/ a Hartke 5000 head (might be what prompted me to buy the 7000)
     
  16. Dec 19, 2014 #16
    B-string

    B-string

    Nov 21, 2008
    Lake Havasu City, Az USA
    Speaker "size" has little to do with low end performance these days ;).
     
  17. Dec 19, 2014 #17
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    I'm starting to get that and it's not like I'll ever be playing 10000 seat arenas!! It'll more than likely be a local "firehouse" or small club!!!
     
  18. Dec 19, 2014 #18
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    I stopped thinking I was gonna be a "rock star" when my hair fell out!!!
     
  19. Dec 19, 2014 #19
    JeromeH

    JeromeH

    Jul 15, 2014
    Us old guys just always seem to think "bigger is better"!
     
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  20. Dec 19, 2014 #20
    buldog5151bass

    buldog5151bass Kibble, milkbones, and P Basses. And redheads.

    Oct 22, 2003
    Connecticut
    Think of it as an opportunity to try things out to experiment. Many here will tell you the only way to go is matching cabs, and the is the easiest and safest way (but also not easy to do on the budget).
     
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