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Am I petty and uptight?

An originals band that has written all of eight songs in a year? That don't have names or finalized, written lyrics? You had me right there.

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You missed a bit, an originals METAL band that has written all of eight songs in a year...

You can pack a lot of riffage into an 8 minute song played at 180+ bpm...

One of our early guitar players/song writers had decidedly metal tendencies in his composition, he'd bring these huge metal opuses to rehearsal, and I'd promptly tear it apart, throw in a riff or two from my head if needed and we'd end up with 2-3 songs out of it. Not an easy transition for him, but before he passed, he was churning out 2 minute punk songs like he'd never heard of DS al Coda.
 
It seems like there are a lot of small annoying things in my original metal band, stacking up and reducing my enjoyment in the band. But, I seem to be the only one in the band having "issues". For starters, the music is not mine and not exactly my style... I only wrote bass lines to their existing music. I have recorded some of my ideas, but mostly no one even bothers to listens to them. Okay, so this is a gig where I am not a contributing writer, I just write and play bass; fair enough so far I suppose.

I get a lot of enjoyment from the hobby of music, so I do things like record and produce our garage demo, burn a spool of free garage demo CDs for every show, create our set opening track burn to cd and coordinate it with sound man, and setup our online presence. I read and watch videos about bass, mixing and recording, live sound... you know, all the topics in these forums. But that's me, I do it for fun, and I have the time. The other band members don't do so much.

Where I start to get annoyed is they don't practice at home or try to get a better sound or do any kind of learning/growing. If we don't have band "practice", they don't practice... despite me uploading backing tracks to our google drive. I practice at home, so my parts are solid... we have been playing together for a year, and at this point it feels like a waste of time to get together to... practice.

The vocalist is the worst. After a year (he has been in the band longer than me) we still don't have names for half our songs (we only have 8 songs), he has not sent anyone any lyrics so I don't even know what he's screaming, and he just shows up to band practice and gigs with nothing except d*** in hand. I suggested we use some band money to get the vocalist gear, and he looks at me incredulously and asks sarcastically, "what gear do I need?". He's relying on venues to provide his mic, PA, and effects.

The rhythm guitarist has crappy pedals plugged in a random order/fashion and does things like leave his phaser on while his amp hisses at the end of songs. Blows money on a crappy 8 string he can't even play instead of doing a little research and using that money to improve the band's sound. I try not to get annoyed at that, cuz it's his money... but I can't help it and it makes me feel uptight and petty.

Lead guitarist brings an ugly stupid cinder block up on stage, just to set his foot on it for solos. Even the soundman was confused who's cinderblock was on stage, and why. It's all up in our videos and picture, so (despite how douchey it is to bring a cinder block to set your foot on for solos) I suggest we at least paint it black or something. Maybe even make it a thing by putting something funny on it or our band initials/logo. The drummer says keep it and don't paint it, he likes the "industrial look"... so I offer to take some steel wool and a spray bottle of water to his drum kit since he likes the industrial look. Needless to say he passed... At this point I am feeling pretty little and petty, I'm trying to be understanding but stuff is stacking up.

There is all the standard word salad "I'm gonna do X" but it never happens. "I know someone who can..." no you don't. The worst is the way our bandleader emails venues. His opening emails never give any info or links about our band... usually just asking "Do you book metal bands?" and literally that is the whole email.

He pissed off the owner of our main venue and made us all look like a big goof troop, with his ridiculous emails asking to change dates and add bands to the line-up when they have no room, then questioning them... she was literally getting ready to post the event to facebook and confirmed with our band... then 5 minutes later BL asked to change to the next weekend with some random band from 4 states away that messaged him on facebook. She finally had enough and schooled us... told him how lucky we are to get weekend shows as a new band with no fans, that they usually book 3 months in advance, and the booker has been very nice giving us weekend slots due to cancellations.

Knowing he will make it worse, I ask him not to reply, but he does anyway. He blames the venue owner for not confirming the date sooner with the random band from 4 states away, and then asks if any weekend slots are available in the next few months. At this point I am furious and thinking about quitting the band... no one else in the band cares or thinks it is a big deal. All they know is they get gigs (for now), and just have to show up with d*** in hand ready to play. Makes me question why I am getting so upset... that I should just show up and play. There is no metal scene here, so it's not like I can just join a different band... but at this point I'm just about to quit and sell my gear. I don't even get paid, it goes into a band fund ie: the band leader's checking account.

Also one guitarist has a big picture of jesus on his cabinet on stage, which I am not a big fan of, but I don't have the right to ask him to remove it. We are not a religious themed band.

Here is the wonderful email we received after he jerked the venue around over the course of 35+ emails. This happened a few days ago, I slept on it, and it still bothers the hell out of me, esp when I think about all the other stuff. We are adults in our 30s... and I'm the only one in the band that cares or has issues; I am strongly considering bailing on our out of town gig this weekend, cuz I don't want to spend the money am I just uptight?

No. those dates are held.

I just checked w/ you before announcing this show!!! 3/18

This is getting tiresome.

You need to understand. [venue name] is booking shows 3 months in advance most of the time.

You have been very lucky to play on two weekend slots so far for your shows because of cancelations.
Newer bands are usually put on weeknights but Dan has been kind to you guys.

If you want a show with your friends band request a weeknight and you will probably get it.

You need to concentrate on getting some people out to your show on 3/18.

(BL then replies asking for another weekend show)

Damm dude that's A lot of bitching! After the first 5 paragraphs it turned to blah/blah/blah/blah!
I mean with all do respect
serious dude, if you're that misearable with them here's your no brainer Simple solution, just quit! Move on!
 
are you petty and uptight? it doesn't sound like it. what you are is working with guys with a totally different take on things, and that's only going to make you more frustrated as time goes by.

i stop working with players who can't work on parts of the music they need work on at home. i left one band where i wasn't able to write some of the songs, and another band i had to be clear that when we started the band we were all supposed to be writing but one member had taken that over before the rest of us could contribute. as far as what the BL is doing, it's way past time for you to move on. these guys are pretty lame, and it sounds like you've had more than enough. they are happy with things as they are, so you can't make them change - you can only move on to work with players who share your musical preferences and share a vision of what a band should be.
 
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Seems like your bandmates do as little as possible (even sabotaging potential gigs) while you do as much as possible.

IME, you're wasting your precious time and talent staying with these incompetents.

I'd find another working band even if it was not your favorite type of music.

PS. DO NOT sell your equipment!

Good luck.
 
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at this point I'm just about to quit and sell my gear
i'm not sure why you would do that! surely it's not because of the miserable situation you described.

i'm all for talking it out with your bandmates: just to make sure: they can accommodate some of your thinking or they can't (or are unwilling). but i think you need to express yourself to the group, even if it ends up being on the way out! good luck --- let us know what happens. :thumbsup:
 
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"Clown show" is an apt description. Some people are perfectly content just getting on stage and making noise...and that's all. Apathy is a good word for it. It sounds like your band is on a different path than you. You are unlikely to change their ways. If you decide to stick with this band a little longer, I'd suggest swallowing your pride and just use the time to network with other like-minded musicians and venue owners/managers. Keep your eyes open for a better situation. Look for opportunities to jam just for the fun of it and see if you can find any chemistry with others.

If you are hell bent on trying to change these guys, maybe try killing them with kindness first? Spell out all the stuff you like about the band and where you think the band can go -- but then tell them what you require to help the band get there. If you spill it out all at once, you are essentially drawing a line in the sand. They might come around, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
 
I don't consider it petty -- the interaction with the bar owner is a big problem. It sounds like the band member doing that is taking the venue for granted. The other stuff -- the picture of jesus, the cinder block, the phaser on between sets, the guy who buys an 8 string instead of effects - I could live with that if the fundamentals are good. But the lackadaisical attitude of the band members really bothers me for sure. I cannot stand being in a group where i have to drag everyone across the finish line. That is what it sounds like to me -- so the client thing, the the lack of commitment to improve of the members would have me thinking about getting a better gig.


Now, if the group has a lot of gigs, I'd reconsider -- if they have gigs in spite of all these problems, there is something worth keeping....
 
Why is nobody getting paid but "the bandleader?" Since when do grown adults need a band fund? Why would you allow someone to take your cut of the gig money? Everything in your OP just screams lame ass posers. Why don't people speak their minds directly to the people causing them grief? Why ask why?
Find/create a better situation and put a higher value on your self and your skill sets while you're at it.
 
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Only two pages? Did we fire the drummer yet?

Maybe it's just me, but after a while these posts all start sounding the same, as if there is some sort of infection causing all bands to make the same stupid mistakes over and over.

I had similar experiences when I was younger but lucked into working with some professionals and realized it was actually possible to play music part time and not have it be a soap opera. micguy's post above is right on the money.
 
You missed a bit, an originals METAL band that has written all of eight songs in a year...

You can pack a lot of riffage into an 8 minute song played at 180+ bpm...

One of our early guitar players/song writers had decidedly metal tendencies in his composition, he'd bring these huge metal opuses to rehearsal, and I'd promptly tear it apart, throw in a riff or two from my head if needed and we'd end up with 2-3 songs out of it. Not an easy transition for him, but before he passed, he was churning out 2 minute punk songs like he'd never heard of DS al Coda.

Maybe so, but from the OP it doesn't sound like they've been hard at work studiously composing and refining complex riffs and countermelodies to twenty-minute prog metal epics.
 
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