You're not the *******. False advertising on the seller's part, whether intentional or not. Send it back.
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Am I the jerk here? Reverb return
- Thread starter jpbicknell
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Seriously dude? From 9 lbs to 11 lbs is a huge difference in playability unless you're siting on your *** in your bedroom and never play 3 - 4 hours gigs. Most new sellers these days list the weight just because it IS important to a lot of people. I have an awesome sounding Peavy T-20 that is a great sounding bass I'd love to play out but it's weight makes it too much to handle. Maybe not important to you but you're definitely in a very small minority.
Pretty obvious who is being the ******* here and it's not the OP.
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An 11 lb bass wouldn't be an issue for me. If it was what I was looking for in every way besides weight, I'd keep it.
Whether you're an ***** or not is really up to you if you decide to press for a return/refund.
Whether you're an ***** or not is really up to you if you decide to press for a return/refund.
The OP made the offer to buy the bass without knowing the weight of the bass beforehand. If the weight was a critical spec, then he should have asked about that prior to making the offer to buy, not after his offer was accepted.
I agree, and stand corrected. OP should have asked prior. However seller also misrepresented the item's weight before payment.
He asked.... so I answered. ..... Maybe he should have asked "Am I being mean.?" Then I would have replied .... "yes you're being a blue meany."
11lbs is a boat anchor to you? I think you're kinda ridiculous, returning a bass over 2lbs discrepancy. Like you're right in that the item was not accurately described and if you were talking about doing this deal with a store that would be one thing. But considering the circumstances was being sold to help out a widow (assuming that is true) Id say just re-sell it if you don't want it, they're desirable enough it shouldn't sit too long.
Like are you a jerk for wanting to return it, not necessarily, however you got me rolling my eyes at your post
Like are you a jerk for wanting to return it, not necessarily, however you got me rolling my eyes at your post
The seller didn't misrepresent anything .... If the seller had stated the bass weighs exactly 9.17324 lbs. +/- 0.5% and the buyer took it to a certified mass lab to have it weighed (and not weighed on your bathroom scale) and it was beyond the stated tolerance, then I guess the buyer would have some sort of case to bellyache his situation on a public forum...... I guess
Weight being improperly stated before your offer? You are in the right
Weight being improperly stated after your offer? You are in the wrong
Weight being improperly stated after your offer? You are in the wrong
The weight question was simply asked too late!
If the weight was a deal breaker you should have asked before you made the offer.
I don't think you're an *******, but if you made the offer before checking the weight, then it's on you.
I think the main thing here is that the original owner who died was a musician/bass player and the current seller (whether it's a third-party or whether it's the woman in question) is not. As such, they may not understand the weight issue and it would be on you to explain the situation. (This is likely also why the weight was not mentioned in the listing - they may not have known that weight was an important detail, not being a musician.)
The "deal" doesn't matter, and the "karma" doesn't matter. The identity of the seller doesn't matter either. If Reverb sides with you, you'd have to option to return the bass in its original condition and get a full refund. If Reverb doesn't side with you (because the listing wasn't technically incorrect and the offer was made and accepted before you checked the weight), then you don't.
There will be other buyers and sellers. If you want to return it and you feel justified in doing so, then do so. (Were I in your shoes, as a show of good faith, I would probably eat the cost of the return shipping in exchange for a refund.)
TL;DR: The karma doesn't matter. You aren't an *******, but the situation was avoidable. Reverb probably shouldn't support you based on the situation - but if it does, send it back. The seller will find another buyer.
Sorry, this is just inaccurate. When asked, the seller didn't say "I don't know," he said "about 9lbs." 11 pounds is about 16% heavier. Don't exactly need a lab to know that's a big difference. 11lb isn't "about 9lbs" in any world. And 11lbs is super heavy for a bass.
The weight shouldn't have been misrepresented. The fact that the offer was made without asking is a better reason to take issue than a guilt-trip.
IMHO....Yes.
I would not return it over the weight nor would I expect a 80's instrument to be a perfect weight. If weight is a issue than buy new or see it in person first.
I would not return it over the weight nor would I expect a 80's instrument to be a perfect weight. If weight is a issue than buy new or see it in person first.
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Am I wrong? And why? And why is your hyperbole about +/- .5% weight tolerance to be taken seriously? 16%, "brother"? For the record, I think he should have asked prior, but it was definitely misrepresented in a way that matters.
Personally, I am torn on this one. The response that the bass is "about 9 lbs"...to me the question comes down to the question: "Is 11 lbs equal to "about 9 lbs"? If this is a non-bass player, I could see them thinking this answer is perfectly reasonable. In most cases, 11 lbs and 9 lbs would be interchangeable and equivalent enough to make the different moot.
