Interesting technique. I have a Superego, which is like a fancy Freeze, gonna have to give this a try.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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That's pretty ingenious! I have and love the Boss SY1000, but one of the big limitations to its modeled synth sounds (manipulating your input sound into something that sounds like a synth oscillator, which is the basis for the songs in the smaller SY synth pedals) is that your ADSR envelope is always that of a person playing a guitar/bass rather than a true versatile synth envelope apart from the ability to dial in some attack decay and held note options in the box. The SY1000 has a big effects section that can emulate some of these in a way, but all of the effects come post synth engine so the response isn't as smooth as manipulating the envelope before the synth engine. I mostly use my SY1000 via 13-pin input though so couldn't utilize this approach unless I just used the 1/4" input- there is a company that makes a "HexFX" pedal that manipulates and effects the sounds from all 6 inputs independently using some similar techniques (plus alot more options, like arpeggiation) for use with 13pin guitars, but it is pretty pricey so I haven't pulled the trigger on one.
Bill Ruppert is such a creative effects demoer, sound designer, and just all-around musician- EHX is fortunate to have had him as a collaborator for so long (his official demos and Effectology videos have almost always been what got me interested in any modern EHX pedal).
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Basically the Roland cable interface for their GK guitar synth pickups, also known as "hex" pickups where each string has its own pickup with its own output (6 of the 13 pins from the cable are individual string outputs) then run into a pedal interface that processes each string independently (like the Roland GR, VG, VB pedals as well as the Boss SY-1000, GP-10, VG800 and GM800- though the latter two use the new TRS Boss digital GK5 interface rather than the older analog 13-pin). For guitar synths and pitchshifting it is a great system as you can get polyphonic output using more accurate monophonic tracking (since each string has its own processor), and you can also assign different sounds and effects to different strings. I have three Godin instruments (two guitars, one bass) with piezo pickups per string and 13-pin Roland-compatible outputs plus a couple instruments with the external Roland GK3 pickups with 13-pin outputs.
The demo you posted was using sounds out of the mono input Boss SY pedals- they track polyphonically but there are some attack artifacts due to needing to pick the input apart from chords. The SY1000 is cleaner by processing each string independently from the start using the 13-pin input.
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I don’t know who this is, but the video belongs here.
It's super interesting!Interesting concept from a few angles, but I’m not coding my own effects, printing my own panels, or buying tokens.
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In this video, the guy form Anderstons tries a prompt and the result is plain silly (he asks for the reverb from a crazy loud exhibition hall, and he get… a weird delay
). Maybe the prompt wasn't good, and maybe the system will improve in the future, but for the moment it seems that you get… "something". So, paying a token for just a random effect is not a great value.But if the pedal was a great success and the community started to share tons of effects, you could just download the one you like and that alone make the pedal valuable.
Like you I don't want to buy tokens and I wont code my own effects from scratch, but if it was possible to download and effect I like, and then tweak the code to my needs, I'd like to give it a try.
Maybe in the future they could allow us to run the AI locally on our computer, so we don't have to buy tokens? The guy says they don't make profit selling the tokens, they have to pay for it so they charge us. But if they could develop a way to run the AI calculation on our local computer, nobody would have to pay for the tokens.
1st track to VOL2, also looking bassguitar/guitar instrumental/drone/ambient for droning earth vol82
this guy came out with a new album recently. he uses a lot of reverb/delay and such. thought he might be interesting for some folks here. this is from his first album.
Been rearranging a few things in the home studio. Considering a new interface but have decision paralysis. Focusrite has the ins/outs/features I want. Curious about SSL and Audient though. Avoiding Motu and not ready to pop for RME. I’m considering some ADAT options so I can expand to ADAT euro modules for more in/out/cv and route audio to/from the rack to the DAW. I could just get an Expert Sleepers ES 9 but that’s a whole interface and only has eurorack jacks except for a balanced stereo out and a headphone out.
I did finally buy a Digitone II. I sold some gear and had credit and a coupon at Perfect Circuit. Time to unbox it and RTFM.
I did finally buy a Digitone II. I sold some gear and had credit and a coupon at Perfect Circuit. Time to unbox it and RTFM.
Not my most ambient board setup. Though I’m working with effects in the box using Genome. I’ve got a ping pong delay and a shimmer reverb for getting spacey. I think I need a midi foot controller next, so I can use stomp the virtual pedals and trigger Ableton clips and scenes.
I've been really happy with my Focusrite Scarlett 18i20, 3rd gen. (4th gen has difitally controlled levels and an autogain feature, 3rd gen has actual knobs.) I have a Boredbrain Optx Eurorack ADAT interface for it.
I’m pretty tempted by the 18i16 4th Gen. It ticks the most boxes and $550 isn’t horribly expensive.
i have some focusrite stuff. seems to work just fine. a friend of mine who has a professional studio uses some of their stuff (amongst others).
What I really want is the Arturia Audiofuse Rev2 for the features. But I have concerns about the reliability and customer service if it isn’t just a plug and play experience.
Curious, why avoiding MOTU?
Admittedly, I haven’t paid attention to anything they’ve done in the last 15 or 20 years… But I’m still using a pair of MOTU interfaces (audio, and MIDI) that have been rock-solid reliable for *decades*.
Two bad experiences using them. One was an older borrowed rack mount interface and one was a more recent purchase that I had to return due to nonstop pops and clicks. I know MOTU has a great reputation for many users and they have some products I’m quite interested in, but there are enough complaints online about the click and pop issue that I’m not convinced that I wouldn’t have trouble free operation with my current laptop and a new interface from them. I’ve been tempted to buy one and return it if I have issues.
Getting more familiar with the fractal am4 and deep diving on the reverbs and delays. So much to play with!
Started glitching my tape delays to create an pitch up or down artifact. Controlling it with the sequencer allows creating either 3rd, 5th, 7th and octave tones based on tape speed jump.
Paired with thick cloud reverb and then creating an initial slap back echo into the dial tape with glitches allows all sorts of interesting percussive trails with the glitch.
Glitch delays are such a rabbit hole. Had some fun with some ambient buckethead chord progressions and the looper.
Started glitching my tape delays to create an pitch up or down artifact. Controlling it with the sequencer allows creating either 3rd, 5th, 7th and octave tones based on tape speed jump.
Paired with thick cloud reverb and then creating an initial slap back echo into the dial tape with glitches allows all sorts of interesting percussive trails with the glitch.
Glitch delays are such a rabbit hole. Had some fun with some ambient buckethead chord progressions and the looper.
I just recently went through the interface upgrade hunt and ended up going for the SSL 12 and so far am pleased with it though admittedly haven’t made a whole lot of use of it yet. I initially was looking into one of the UA Volt 4 pre models as my bandmate uses one to record all our band rehearsals and I liked the idea of having simple analog comp and character at the input, but then I went down the rabbit-hole and ended up looking hard at the MOTU Ultralite MK5 (had it in my cart a few times) but the lower pricepoint on the SSL combined with some general MOTU software-related critiques I ran across (I am allergic to anything that might give me driver issues in a few years or is tied to digital licenses, which is one reason I stopped looking at UA options) ended up winning me over.
This is my matrix of features. The biggest ding against the SSL12 is the size given my desktop space, though it isn’t wildly gigantic. The SSL 2+ kinda has my attention, particularly for the price. I need to verify a few more things like loopback function and software portions of the interface. Focusrite having the ability to run standalone (no computer connected) and control the mixer with a mobile device is tempting.
A couple dings for me for the SSL 12 before deciding on it were the lack of an external wall power option (though I can and probably eventually will run it off a powered USB C hub just to ensure there aren't any issues while recording with BUS power) and having the controls on the top (so no stacking anything on top of it or using it in a rack, plus higher potential for spill damage- I did buy a hard cover for it for extra safety)
