Ya....no thanks....I've always got by with limited resources compared to many.
I'm also very lucky to have what I do have.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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I'm also very lucky to have what I do have.
Also, you can get through music college and university studies with just one bass.
I'm living proof.
Ya....no thanks....I've always got by with limited resources compared to many.
I'm also very lucky to have what I do have.
I was joking. Sort of...
Been working "in the box" too long. I'm spoiled by synths that don't hiss. Gave the Nyx v2 Demos a few listens and I hear snakes everywhere, so I think I'm abandoning that route. Maybe an Elektron Digitone is what I'm rerouting toward. Though the 1010 units look pretty plausible for a rack rig.
For you with euro rack gear, is the analogue/euro game plagued by hiss, or am I just picking the wrong devices, and/or expecting too much? I like my experience with the Make Noise skiff except for the Hiss-meophon. My Medusa hisses a bit, which is more/less noticeable depending on the parameter settings. The Nyx v1 generates hiss from the reverb, but it usually gets lost live in the patches I build. I'm assuming the Electron devices will be better, and might be closer to my DAW workflow mentality (once I pass that learning curve).
For you with euro rack gear, is the analogue/euro game plagued by hiss, or am I just picking the wrong devices, and/or expecting too much? I like my experience with the Make Noise skiff except for the Hiss-meophon. My Medusa hisses a bit, which is more/less noticeable depending on the parameter settings. The Nyx v1 generates hiss from the reverb, but it usually gets lost live in the patches I build. I'm assuming the Electron devices will be better, and might be closer to my DAW workflow mentality (once I pass that learning curve).
Noise and hiss hunting can make someone go loco. It can be from a bad connector to a chip in a pedal to a setting that raises the noise floor.
Even some analog synths, no two are alike sometimes. Played alot with Rhodes players when I use to play jazz. Some sound awesome and some are noisy and crackle. Even a small dust particle at the wrong place can %#@#&#$; things up.
Some modules are noisier than others. Most of my eurorack modules are Malekko/Wiard, which are pretty clean, IMO. WMD Geiger Counter is quite noisy, particularly with some wavetables. Everything else is for sequencing and modulation. With analog gear there is always noise, but I've learn to not care about it, if not embrace it. Some of my best recordings have noticeable background hiss.
Ya...this guy said it better than me.
Just today I reassembled my synth rig and noticed a hiss coming from one of my old pedals. It's a great pedal, too, so it kind of sucks. Will be fine for live shows but for recording I'll have to work around it. Fortunately, the rest of my rig is pretty quiet.
bob and ugly. nice tracks
gear cost: buy what you like and use it.
gear cost: buy what you like and use it.
I'm aware it may be a fact of life. Just trying to get a feel for the amount of frustration I'm looking at. It's either banging my head against module noise or the Elektron learning curve. Picking my poison.
I end up playing fairly minimalist pieces at moderate volume so hiss will stand out and drive me bonkers.
2020 feels like a year of minimizing things, so the modules and cables and what not might go counter to the goal. Maybe I need a Swiss Army knife device.
The Digi gives me 4 synth and 4 midi lanes, so it's not a bad direction to go. I need to investigate how playable it is live. Learning it moves me a bit closer to the Octa too.
If you do moderate volume ambient. Yes the hiss and noise of some analog tools will make you punch walls.
Like me and upright arco playing......gave that up long ago....not enough talent
Well, again, basing this on the Digitakt.... because of the small size, I often learn a lot just getting in a comfy chair and with the DT and some headphones, and then either watch tutorials or create. It's nice to get away from my studio and just focus on this instrument. I haven't really been frustrated, at all... I've been able to figure out everything I need to do. I do think that it will be a great one for playing live, once the workflow is a bit more second nature.
Ugh. The Digitakt looks pretty dope too. Reminds me of what I'm working with in Battery, with a sequencer.
Buckle up kids...
This is a demo of a Reaktor device I built using the XYS Block, which is triggering a drum kit in Battery (Factory - Terror Core Kit)
The Clock (far right) receives the tempo from the Ableton Live host, and then passes it to the CLK DIV (far left). CLK has six subdivisions. 1 is triggering the X axis on the XYS. 2 is triggering the Y axis on the XYS. 6 is functioning as a "Reset" count.
The XYS block general behavior is more than I care to try to explain here. Pay attention to the color of the knobs, indicating the XG and YG status. Also pay attention to directional arrows in the upper left corner of the block, and note how this influences the movement. For those familiar with this block, all 16 YG dots/knobs are active, but some of the XG dots/knobs have been deactivated, with the active locations represented by the white dots/knobs (deactivated XG locations are red).
The X axis movements are being set to the X Quant module in the lower left. This is quantized to send limited MIDI notes to a Battery kit. The XYS knob positions control the initial incoming value. The X axis gates are bypassing the X Quant module because I couldn't get that signal flow figured out (no gates passed).
The Y axis movements are sent to the Y Quant module in the lower right, Like the X Quant, this limits the MIDI notes being sent to the same Battery kit as X. The Y gates bypass the Y Quant (same reason as above). The "Out Logic" of the XYS axis is passing the note values to the Y Quant module, which then sends the MIDI values out to Battery.
This is a demo of a Reaktor device I built using the XYS Block, which is triggering a drum kit in Battery (Factory - Terror Core Kit)
The Clock (far right) receives the tempo from the Ableton Live host, and then passes it to the CLK DIV (far left). CLK has six subdivisions. 1 is triggering the X axis on the XYS. 2 is triggering the Y axis on the XYS. 6 is functioning as a "Reset" count.
The XYS block general behavior is more than I care to try to explain here. Pay attention to the color of the knobs, indicating the XG and YG status. Also pay attention to directional arrows in the upper left corner of the block, and note how this influences the movement. For those familiar with this block, all 16 YG dots/knobs are active, but some of the XG dots/knobs have been deactivated, with the active locations represented by the white dots/knobs (deactivated XG locations are red).
The X axis movements are being set to the X Quant module in the lower left. This is quantized to send limited MIDI notes to a Battery kit. The XYS knob positions control the initial incoming value. The X axis gates are bypassing the X Quant module because I couldn't get that signal flow figured out (no gates passed).
The Y axis movements are sent to the Y Quant module in the lower right, Like the X Quant, this limits the MIDI notes being sent to the same Battery kit as X. The Y gates bypass the Y Quant (same reason as above). The "Out Logic" of the XYS axis is passing the note values to the Y Quant module, which then sends the MIDI values out to Battery.
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Well, something like a Digitone can be as clean (or not) as you want it to be. I feel like I have the opposite problem as you in many ways. Most of my favorite records are noisy and imperfect. I tried doing everything in the box and ultimately just quit doing it. Shame, because it's faster, easier and way cheaper. I just couldn't bring any life into my electronic stuff that way. I know it can be done, but I couldn't make it work for me. I'm still learning modular, but the thing is, you can make things breath. It has life and unpredictability built into its system. You get something going, look down at the modules and think, "maybe I could try..." Whatever it is, you can just grab it and try. It might be exactly like you thought it would be, it might not, it might be even cooler than you thought. I dunno, but to me it's a beautiful and musical thing. Sometimes there's noise, like on most of my favorite records. Sometimes you gotta move modules around because of weird crosstalk, but in the moment you just deal with it like you would in a band situation. Like playing live with single coil pickups
Only you know what's best for you, but for me, the more I embrace chance and unpredictability, the happier I am musically.
Nevermind...this is the right answer
I've played upright arco on a bunch of records and I promise I'm worse than you at it. Thank goodness for overdubs!
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I've been working up a bunch of things meant to be background music for video/tv/film. Been making a part time living at that for many years. This is one such piece. Used LFO's and fractal sequencing to make the timing more loose.
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