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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

caveat: i don't really do true "ambient," i do more more soundscapey stuff (loosely) that's incorporated in multi-tracked recording or live improv of a slightly "electronic-ish" bent. . .

so, whether i'm doing a live or recorded project, the aesthetic holds true: i'm trying to place parts and textures in the stereo field. (i tend to think antiphonally, like orchestra parts complementing each other, etc.)

I'm not sure I do true ambient either, but I like loops bumping up against one another, etc.
 
I'm not sure I do true ambient either, but I like loops bumping up against one another, etc.

right. hard-panning those can be really interesting. a stereo looper can mean that you have the same loop, but overdub one idea into the left and one into the right . . . or pan across the field in real time or . . . or . . . or . . .

a panning pedal can be your friend (i use the ibanez vl-10, but i'm sure there are newer, better things that do what it does).

two amps can be useful, if not annoying fro the schlep factor.
 
Stereo is tough because of most effects being mono. I have a few full stereo effects with two ins and two outs, and I also have a some with mono in and stereo out, such as my chorus pedal.

Problem is getting the mono bass to become stereo means using something like the chorus, but I often want the chorus to farther down the signal chain. I suppose I could something from Saturnworks or someone to make a mono-to-stereo pedal, but that still leaves the problem of putting mono and stereo effects in different orders in the chain.
 
Mono to stereo is easy for me, though the panning pedal is an interesting idea. It's mostly on the output end. But a stereo amp setup is intriguing....

it's pretty cool.

if you have a stereo reverb and so forth before a stereo looper, you can do stuff like having a bunch of stuff with reverb in one channel and overdub something completely dry in the other (on the same loop so they're always synchronized).

at the risk of being obnoxious . . . try this with headphones to see what i'm talking about. all live improv, no overdubs.

 
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So when people are doing ambient/solo stuff, how much are you thinking about stereo? I'm thinking of stuff with bass, where lots of the pedals etc are mono, rather than synths, where it's more likely to be stereo from the beginning.
Everything I do is stereo (unless I'm doing plain ol' bass playing). I have a stereo DI under my board that goes out to 2 QSC 8.2's and a sub. The synths go there, too. Wouldn't have it any other way.
 
Stereo is tough because of most effects being mono. I have a few full stereo effects with two ins and two outs, and I also have a some with mono in and stereo out, such as my chorus pedal.

Problem is getting the mono bass to become stereo means using something like the chorus, but I often want the chorus to farther down the signal chain. I suppose I could something from Saturnworks or someone to make a mono-to-stereo pedal, but that still leaves the problem of putting mono and stereo effects in different orders in the chain.
I have a bypass looper with 6 mono and four stereo channels - that seems to take care of that problem you're describing, here.
 
Any example tracks of the said process??

Not yet but I had a good jam today. Just wasn't set up to record, which got me thinking. I might just do the whole thing in mono, though it's also true that hooking up to a mixer would let me

It's not that different from some of my older electronic stuff, it's just that I'm using my own playing as the sound source instead of recordings. For instance this one I've got one granular patch set up and I'm dragging the mouse around, and then two others playing off one another to create a complex rhythm:



Here is a guitar loop tripled in Live and then used as the basis for a built up. The piano part at the end is extracted MIDI tripled in the same way as the guitar loops. It's a little Abletony but I think it should have been let out into the world a long time ago.

Dropbox - Diptych.m4a - Simplify your life

The basic idea is to build up simple repetitions on top of one another to create more complex rhythms. I can say a lot more about this, including how I sequence, but that's another thing.
 
Shell pink ECCOS from Keeley at CME only.
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stereo too ;)
 

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I've done a bunch of stereo stuff in the recording studio, but never with my live rig; most of the concessions I made to my processing for reliability-after-transport necessitated that I lock things down pretty tightly, making re-patching a much bigger ordeal than it probably should be.
 
In other news, I had my first session since late February 2020 with other human musicians last night! The RMA trio is all vaccinated and we've all remained ultra-cautious about exposure even post-vaccination, so we felt it was time to resume our weekly soireé. Big amps, big pedalboards, a weird little modular synthesizer that I didn't recognize (our percussionist/synthesist must belong to some Modular-Of-The-Month Club because I swear he shows up with a new toy every week!), a big night of joyful raucous cacophony. It felt really good.
 
In other news, I had my first session since late February 2020 with other human musicians last night! The RMA trio is all vaccinated and we've all remained ultra-cautious about exposure even post-vaccination, so we felt it was time to resume our weekly soireé. Big amps, big pedalboards, a weird little modular synthesizer that I didn't recognize (our percussionist/synthesist must belong to some Modular-Of-The-Month Club because I swear he shows up with a new toy every week!), a big night of joyful raucous cacophony. It felt really good.

Totally jealous, but also excited. My two bandmates in my post-rock trio are getting their first shots next week.