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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
- Thread starter ttasselm
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this would be super useful IF it does a better job of rejecting noise than other I/o modules. I’ve had little luck getting usable Euro processing in the FX loop of an amp. OTOH I guess this allows just putting the Euro after the “amp.”
PS I love the shooting fish in a barrel graphic.
I just put this up. The third track is all bass and effects. The rest are all synth tracks.
IIRC, it is mostly Boss SY-1 and a Triode Pedals Leviathan filter pedal. Also a Boss DD-7 digital delay pedal. I made a video for it back when I recorded it:
ahh, i see, so it is in fact a Synthesizer pedal.
I´m new to pedals !
soundwise, i find it missleading to refer to it as "playing Bass", while it technically is ofcourse.
Since the Bass acts here just a controller, but not exactly as the base "sound-delivery unit".
Thanks, interesting !
kind of ontopic, vs. using the Bass as a Synthesizer:
The sonicsmith ConvertorE1 is finally coming along.
they got first units in, they want to do some QC and some final FW tweaks.
Should ship in about 2 Weeks ( the standing last friday)
its a instrument pitch to 1V/oct CV convertor.
Its been sayed it should work well with Bass, also with 5 Strings. IIRC down to 25Hz
ConVertor E1 | Sonicsmith
......have one on order now
The sonicsmith ConvertorE1 is finally coming along.
they got first units in, they want to do some QC and some final FW tweaks.
Should ship in about 2 Weeks ( the standing last friday)
its a instrument pitch to 1V/oct CV convertor.
Its been sayed it should work well with Bass, also with 5 Strings. IIRC down to 25Hz
ConVertor E1 | Sonicsmith
......have one on order now
hmmm. i guess i don’t see it that way at all.
i think you can quite clearly that *played* bass notes are being processed.
a controller would be more midi triggering.
this is more oscillator with pitch changing, so played.
imo, etc.
I’ll be curious how it works for you. I have been completely disappointed with pitch to CV in the bass range. But, in Eurorack I had some success with a clockable LFO. I have no idea why that tracked better but it did, and consistently.
I was definitely playing my bass on that track.
But it's a philosophical question once the pedals get to the point of making it no longer sound like a bass. With the expression pedal controlling the filter, the pedals and the bass together become almost a new instrument I suppose.
dunno.
i look at these things through the lens of orchestral and extended tech.
baroque through clasical it’s mostly pretty standard arco, maybe a bit of pizz. romantic you start getting more pizz, sul ponticello. late romantic /early modern you add col legno, snap pitz, etc. contemporary it can be pretty much anything to make the sound with a string instrument.
much the same for winds and brass.
maybe it’s “making it no longer sound like you *expect* a bass to sound.”
which i find pretty exciting.
yup, probably a philosophical question.
yeah, but: ......"making it nolonger sound like a Bass" is not a problem for my brain.
no problem.
for my brain the question is: Is the Audio signal of the Bass, the source sound of what i hear ?
I just had a quick look vs. your roland pedal, but it seemed to me like its a "Synthesizer", "controlled" by your bass.
In case a synth oscillator was the soundsource as such, then things change for me, respecivly for my brain,
BUT: only in the function, me beeing a listener.
In the role as the player, would i perceive it completly different.
yeah, i totally get that point of view !
Can´t judge on the second part.
For me thats all new / the whole pedal, or synth bass thing ), so my ears are not used to it.
As sayed, From a "soundmaking" standpoint would i also refer to it as Bassplaying.
From a "sound-listening" standpoint do i not, somehow.
In case the "sound" was made by an external oscillator.
so, i can boil it down to:
"who is *the sound source* as such " ?
i do make a played Bass sound like something completly synthetic, based on using FX.
But the dynamics are different.
That was the part that iritated me
and i´d say, mostoften or even alltways could you hear the "underlying" sound of the Bass. It never vanishes completly, i´d say.
i understand. So far i never jumped on anything.
there have been several pitch tracking units.
Some people reported they do work, for some it didn´t.
Bass beeing a problem on its own on top of that !
But: the convertorE1 had a predecessor, a desktop unit.
and i found several people in forums, claiming that it works for Bass.
this module will finally also come into regular shops, so if you wait just a bit, will you have the ability to shop from a retailer, and just send it back if it doesn´t.
I will report, certainly.
Well if you put things that way… what’s the difference between octave + fuzz +filter vs the sy1 or any “synthesiser pedal” and then vs an actual synthesiser (hardware or software)
None of them are going to come out sounding like an electric bass with no pedals and an amp.
pretty much anything talked about in this thread I “expect” it to never sound like a normal bass anyways
None of them are going to come out sounding like an electric bass with no pedals and an amp.
pretty much anything talked about in this thread I “expect” it to never sound like a normal bass anyways
I have band practice on Saturday and excited to play my intro part… but now having option paralysis… is Tc electronics brainwaves pitch shifting plus mbd1 overdrive plus boss sy1 plus malekko downer plus chorus and wah too much? 
*sarcasm intended. Of course I will try them all on*
*sarcasm intended. Of course I will try them all on*
I have the Boss SY-1000, and that does some really insane stuff, my gigging rig is actually 5 string Bass fitted with Roland GK pickup > GK splitter > Roland GR-55 synth (with Tech21 VtBass in a modded loop) + Boss SY-1000. The GR-55, SY-1000, and also a Boss VE-500 vocal fx are midi inter-connected.
All works pretty well together, just got a Korg Wavestate keyboard synth, and now figuring if I should (or not) incorporate that into the rig.
All works pretty well together, just got a Korg Wavestate keyboard synth, and now figuring if I should (or not) incorporate that into the rig.
