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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

I look at it the other way around: you're not taking a Eurorack to a guitar/bass gig, you're taking a guitar to an electronic gig, where the modular is going to be to begin with.

I like that perspective. Or, iow...ENABLER! :)


As far as who has done this before, I think Pete Townshend ran his guitar through an Arp synth rig on some of those classic Who tunes, such as Who Are You.

Here's me, circa 1983, running my bass through an ARP 2500

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...for the ~60 second introduction of one tune out of an hour's worth of material. Was it worth dragging all that gear to the venue for a minute of sonic mayhem?

HELLZ YEAH!
 
I like that perspective. Or, iow...ENABLER! :)




Here's me, circa 1983, running my bass through an ARP 2500

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...for the ~60 second introduction of one tune out of an hour's worth of material. Was it worth dragging all that gear to the venue for a minute of sonic mayhem?

HELLZ YEAH!

Please tell me that 2500 still exists...

I watched a documentary about ARP and they mentioned that one appears in the climactic scene of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, when the scientists are communicating with the aliens via music they are playing tones through a 2500. The guy playing the synth in that scene was the rep from ARP who transported the instrument; apparently Spielberg needed someone to play it so they paid him to stick around and shoot the scene.
 
Please tell me that 2500 still exists...

If only...
The ARP belonged to my housemate, who had been my best friend in high school and college and a bandmate in several different ensembles from 1976-81. Sometime around 1984 he built a commercial recording studio in Cambridge MA, and the ARP lived there for a while...and then in '85 or '86 he had an early-life crisis (in part brought on by a failed relationship with the first and only woman he could ever rightfully call his "girlfriend") and he sold the entire studio as a fully-equipped turnkey system and moved to Detroit to work for General Motors designing cars

The story gets even more bizarre/tragic after that, but it doesn't involve cool synthesizers or ambient/post-rock/textural bass playing so I won't bore you with the sordid details.
 
amp sims that would be good for bass and guitar? any faves?
hardware.

With the caveat that I have not tried the Kemper, I'll offer this: None of the amp sims that I've tried and liked on guitar did anything for me on bass.

That's probably because all the amp sim manufacturers seem to be spending all their engineering resources on capturing the specific and peculiar timbral characteristics that are unique to a particular amp/cab combination without spending enough resources addressing the thing that is common to all amp/cab combinations: Moving air.

iow, for a bass part that is not supposed to sound conspicuously effected the only reason I find myself looking beyond a good DI is if I want to add some moving air to the tone. I almost never find myself thinking "geez, this part would be perfect ...if only it were played through a vintage B-15! ...or a Marshall SuperBass w/ the 8x15" double stack!" If I want something that dramatically different from the clean, dry DI tone I probably want a pedal that adds some variant of dirt, grind, or radical EQ. And if I want something that's just slightly different from the clean, dry DI tone I probably want a real mic on a real speaker to capture some real moving air. None of the amp sims I've used seem to do that well enough to justify their use on bass, and I find that their attempts at simulating that moving air mostly serve to diffuse or obscure the solidity and impact of a good dry bass tone.

Conversely, they nearly all seem to work wonders on guitar, so long as you're not ultra-anal about making super-granular comparisons to the amps they're ostensibly emulating ("ugh, that doesn't sound at all like a 1965 Fender Twin Reverb; it sounds like a 1966 Fender Twin Reverb!")
 
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hardware.

Ive got the DSM OmniCab which is pretty good for all analog. It’s essentially a HPF/LPF device with resonance and some EQ control of the mids.

In terms of digital IR based stuff, I’m currently looking at the Two Notes CAB M+ but I’m not sold on it. Seems to be lots of love here for the Shiftline Olympic but I’ve never tried. I’ve heard good things about the Mooer Radar.

I think the inherent issue with IR pedals is that you’re getting a cab/mic/position effect on the sound, and that many times you need or want to blend more than one IR to get a desired final result (depending on the application).

I’m currently using some Ugritone bass IR stuff as a VST. Their loader lets you run up to 8 IR settings at once. I have yet to find a single IR that I’d want to run solo as my primary sound.
 
@steubig I run my touch guitar through a Sansamp VT Bass and it sounds good in both bass and guitar ranges and is capable of lots of good tones. The Quilter 202 also has an amp sim (more Fendery) and also sounds really good. I also used an AMT Chameleon out of my Orange TB500 and liked it. I have also just run overdrive through a low pass filter and been happy.

I get frustrated with the amp sim tones in my Line6 HX stomp. I think I hear a weird ringing or filtering on IRs that I don’t hear with the all analog pedals, but I could also be full of ***t. I like Logic’s/Mainstage’s cab sims best in software, also SoundToys Decapitator through a low pass filter. YMMV.
 
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I've had the GCA Light Pedal for a couple months now and one of the things I love about it is that it is so alive, for lack of a better term. Especially on the harmonic and reflect settings, I feel like I have a certain amount of control but there is also a certain amount of chaos that gives me room to sort of step back and let the pedal do its thing. The relative unpredictability of "its thing" (in those settings, at least) is a big part of the appeal for me.

Anyway, the reason I mention this is I am wondering if anyone can recommend other pedals that have this same sort of chaotic characteristic (and they don't have to be reverbs). Pedals that allow you to not only get out of the way and let the pedal do its thing, but also have some degree of unpredictability so you're never 100% certain what's going to happen next. Any recommendations?