OK, your call.
Note that PF-20T is significantly cheaper...and it sounds better, IMHO.
Just be aware that power tubes are where it's at... as pointed out by JimmyM...
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Ampeg B15N Tone but Modern Amp?
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OK, your call.
Note that PF-20T is significantly cheaper...and it sounds better, IMHO.
Just be aware that power tubes are where it's at... as pointed out by JimmyM...
Indeed they add a lot, but it's a lot for what is, in gigging terms, possibly only an effects pedal outside a coffee shop gig. Perceived sound is logarithmic, but even so 20W might be rather marginal. I'd have to really love the sound to justify using it to feed another amp and for if to carry through to FOH. If I was doing a lot of recording it might be a different story. If it has an FX loop for some reverb and could flatter a Telecaster I might see a use as a dual service amp at 20W.
Fair enough.
I just wanted you to have all the relevant information...I don't want to by pushy.
I’m curious how it sounds better. I’ve seen a PF – 20 in the wild and tried it but I’ve never had a chance to play at PF 50 especially not side-by-side against the 20.
I know "better" is highly subjective. So let me rephrase: I like it better.
The point is that those two amps sound different. Somebody here on TB compared the 50T to SVT-VR and the 20T to B15N...soundwise.
Is there a shop with a return policy? You might order and return it if you don't like it?
That's not as common in the UK, although consumer protections are good. But even then it would be a slippery slope to being not returned if already in my house. If in a shop I have to make an active decision to make it appear in my house.
I know what you mean. Generous return policy is exactly the way how PF-20T ended up in my house...;-)
The Rumble Stage 800 also does a great job (Disclaimer #1: I don't own a Rumble Stage 800, but spent an hour in a store playing with it extensively. Disclaimer #2: I also don't own a B-15.)
The Jule Monique sounds deliciously fantastic, either as a preamp or in the amplified version.
I have one of those plus an Ampeg so I can compare and contrast them side by side. I think a big part of the Ampeg tone comes from the speaker and cabinet. The easiest way to replicate that portion of the equation is with an MXR 10 band graphic EQ, though a DSM OmniCabSim does a respectable job as well.
Also, with the Ampeg, you will need a good mic and need to know how to mic it. That adds a LOT to the cost if you have to supply the mic.
If you are in the NYC area, you are welcome to try out my Ampeg, which is in perfect condition and doesn't need anything other than to be played and enjoyed. I was contemplating renting it out for people who need it for recording. Not sure what would be a fair daily rate. But I would want a $2,200 deposit in case it came back not working. "You break it, you bought it."
That is what I paid for it.
I have one of those plus an Ampeg so I can compare and contrast them side by side. I think a big part of the Ampeg tone comes from the speaker and cabinet. The easiest way to replicate that portion of the equation is with an MXR 10 band graphic EQ, though a DSM OmniCabSim does a respectable job as well.
Also, with the Ampeg, you will need a good mic and need to know how to mic it. That adds a LOT to the cost if you have to supply the mic.
If you are in the NYC area, you are welcome to try out my Ampeg, which is in perfect condition and doesn't need anything other than to be played and enjoyed. I was contemplating renting it out for people who need it for recording. Not sure what would be a fair daily rate. But I would want a $2,200 deposit in case it came back not working. "You break it, you bought it."
That is what I paid for it.
Of the Solid State PF series, the PF-350 comes really close, because of the Baxandall Tone Stack. The PF-50T nails it. But if you're just using one to record go, borrow one if you can.
I use a Markbass mini stack rig for pure utility purposes. But since it's sort of neutral sounding I put a VT Bass Deluxe in front of it and it does a pretty great job of copping that old Ampeg tone (with a P bass, of course). You can dial in a B15 tone as well as an SVT. That seems to get me solidly in the ballpark.
I heard this kit compared to the ampeg pf-20 model on youtube here: and didn't think that the ampeg pf model had any of the same juice that the ampeg has. I thought the trinity sounded right on. I was just hoping to not have to put it together!
