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Ampeg dream will become true but I am scared.

When my pickup is not available I haul the equivalent of an Ampeg stack in my 2001 Subaru Impreza with no problems. My rig is Ampeg 410He + Ampeg 115E + Traynor YBA300 + bass in hard shell case + a backup SS amp + a pair of 12" stage monitors + a mic stand + a guitar stand + a briefcase full of stuff + 3 inflatable palm trees + a small cooler + whatever other little stuff I think I need. And the Suby is low to the ground so easy in and out with the cabs. I've hauled my son's 810 a couple times. Fits fine - tip it into the back and push.

I bought the Traynor instead of the SVT to save some weight. Glad I did. May or may not change my mind when I A/B it with my son's SVT II Pro. cheers

Wow! I have small station wagon car.

Then how do you know you want it?

Never played yet but I listen it every day ;) it has lots of records especially my in my play list(classic rock, heavy metal etc.)
 
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Never played yet but I listen it every day ;) it has lots of records especially my in my play list(classic rock, heavy metal etc.)

You can't base what you like from that, as you have no idea what they used in studio. They might have even been direct and used a digital SVT plugin. I've done it and damned if it doesn't sound like an SVT. But maybe not...

Seriously, before you spend all that cash you need to play one with a band. I'm not saying it's not a good sound, but you really don't even know if it works for you or not. The big thing for me with tube amps is that they FEEL different to play.

Personally, I dislike them for all the inconvenience they bring - cost, weight, and manitenance. If you want a killer sound that's loud and tubey, try either a Mesa D800+ with the deep switch in, or a GK MB800, or especially a GK MB Fusion 800 (it has a tube). And to that you can add an Ampeg SCR-DI, for the Ampeg thing. That pedal is worth every penny, BTW. It has the potential to make any amp sound like an Ampeg. For $200.
 
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I always thought it would be cool to build a Vox Super Beatle looking cab that would work well with four 12's or a pair of 15's and put a Rumble 500 head inside a Vox Trap Head box. Of course you'd have to have the chrome trolley. I just always thought the SBs looked so cool. That would be my dream rig if Mrs. Garage Band let me spend Two Million Euros.

Not a problem. They sell the metal trolleys and head cases here:

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You can't base what you like from that, as you have no idea what they used in studio. They might have even been direct and used a digital SVT plugin. I've done it and damned if it doesn't sound like an SVT. But maybe not...

Seriously, before you spend all that cash you need to play one with a band. I'm not saying it's not a good sound, but you really don't even know if it works for you or not. The big thing for me with tube amps is that they FEEL different to play.

Personally, I dislike them for all the inconvenience they bring - cost, weight, and manitenance. If you want a killer sound that's loud and tubey, try either a Mesa D800+ with the deep switch in, or a GK MB800, or especially a GK MB Fusion 800 (it has a tube). And to that you can add an Ampeg SCR-DI, for the Ampeg thing. That pedal is worth every penny, BTW. It has the potential to make any amp sound like an Ampeg. For $200.

I forgot to say, I will drive to thomann or another big saller for test drive. You are right about getting right tone from gear. I always test amps with my gear(Basses and pedals) before buy it but there is no possibility to test SVT with my band.

I use tech 21 BDDI programmable + markbass compressore(tube) for getting compressed overdrive tone. But I have not try scr-di yet.
 
When my pickup is not available I haul the equivalent of an Ampeg stack in my 2001 Subaru Impreza with no problems. My rig is Ampeg 410He + Ampeg 115E + Traynor YBA300 + bass in hard shell case + a backup SS amp + a pair of 12" stage monitors + a mic stand + a guitar stand + a briefcase full of stuff + 3 inflatable palm trees + a small cooler + whatever other little stuff I think I need. And the Suby is low to the ground so easy in and out with the cabs. I've hauled my son's 810 a couple times. Fits fine - tip it into the back and push.

I bought the Traynor instead of the SVT to save some weight. Glad I did. May or may not change my mind when I A/B it with my son's SVT II Pro. cheers

The YBA300 and 810 cab were seriously in the running with an all tube Ampeg when I came across a new old stock SVT 2 Pro with warranty which I could drive to get so I wouldn't have to deal with it being dropped in shipping. Always wondered what might have been.
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I'd like to hear your thoughts on the shootout.

The YBA300 and 810 cab were seriously in the running with an all tube Ampeg when I came across a new old stock SVT 2 Pro with warranty which I could drive to get so I wouldn't have to deal with it being dropped in shipping. Always wondered what might have been.
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I promise to (try to remember :D) to get back to you when it happens. The hell of it will be getting both amps on stage together since my son and I are both gigging pretty regular this summer and fall. But we're both curious to know. He uses an 810 and is several times the musician I am so I'll shoot for one of his shows.

Nice outfit!
 
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In your case, I would consider the V-4B amp with the right cabinet.
(300 watt tube amps might be a bit overkill)
Choice of cabinet is maybe even more important than choice of amp.
Then, what cabinet?
A SVT212 cab comes to mind, or a SVT610HLF.

This is the area I would go.

IMHO, YMMV
300 watts overkill? You are not real bassist. :smug:

Option B for sure mate!

Raz
 
I am much more motivated for SVT CL after feedbacks:) CL + 4x10 Cab exceed my budget but I will find a way, I will sell my markbass combo.

On the other hand, my band mates, probably, will not like CL. Our lead guitarist has already mationed his thinking:"what is SVT for? Too loud for us".

Btw 6x10 cab looks good for CL but indont have truck. My first target is 4x10HLF for CL..

Guitarist are knuckleheads don't know what volume is for.
 
Okay, I read through the thread and re-read the OP. Here are my thoughts:

Your wife is pretty cool. Let her know that this fact isn't lost on you. ;)

Spend some time playing as much as you can of the gear you're interested in. It doesn't sound like there's an urgent need to get it done now, so take your time and make a few trips, spread apart, if necessary. Bring along your current rig so you can play them side by side (your 121H combo atop a 12" extension cab next to one of the Ampeg heads atop a 410/212/610/810 should make for some interesting comparisons). Play at different volume levels (soft, loud, pushing it).

If your wife would be into it, take her along and make a day of it -- get a nice dinner some place, see some sights. She might enjoy being part of the process. (If not, spare her.)

Make sure that you can fit the rig in your car (you mention a small wagon) and get it into your home (if that's where you'll be keeping it).

If you've never played a tube amp or a rig much bigger than your current combo, it's worth taking some time to get to know what's out there. Even if you end up getting the same rig you'd planned on at the outset, you'll make that decision more confidently and feel better about it.

Good luck. Have fun!
 
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I was reminded of this video -- it seems especially appropriate here:



Don't know about stairs, but that should give you some idea of scale and of getting in and out of the car...

Also came across this (listening to it now):

It won't take the place of playing the stuff for yourself, but I think it's interesting (and pretty cool) nonetheless.
 
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I always thought it would be cool to build a Vox Super Beatle looking cab that would work well with four 12's or a pair of 15's and put a Rumble 500 head inside a Vox Trap Head box. Of course you'd have to have the chrome trolley. I just always thought the SBs looked so cool. That would be my dream rig if Mrs. Garage Band let me spend Two Million Euros.

I used to play through a Vox Super Beatle rig when I was a kid, didn't sound too bad for a SS rig and had adequate volume, was kind of boxy sounding though.
 
I was reminded of this video -- it seems especially appropriate here:



Don't know about stairs, but that should give you some idea of scale and of getting in and out of the car...

Also came across this (listening to it now):

It won't take the place of playing the stuff for yourself, but I think it's interesting (and pretty cool) nonetheless.


I gotta say that was a pretty cool video, the SVT-VR consistently sounded the best to me and the B2-RE sounded very good and aggressive which surprised me, the SVT II along with the SVT Pro-2 both also sounded very good, the MTI SVT didn't stand out in that company to me, the others were hit of miss. I liked the SVT Pro 2 much better than the SVT Pro 3, i also liked the B-15S though, the V4-B didn't impress me, the B-25B sounded better to me than the V$-B for some reason, all in all I thought they all sounded good though but I liked the more aggressive sounding amps better. I liked the P bass with round wounds the best, The Ric sounded good though too, the rest ehh. If I were going for a rock band sound, I'd grab a P bass, round wounds, pick and a VR. Too bad they didn't have a 70's SVT head, they had the cab, an MTI head is not in the same league as a 70's head, I used to own a skunkworks head and it sounded very similar to the MTI, they just kind of lack that killer instinct along with the SVT Pro-3.
 
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