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Another Red Flag On The Ampeg PF-500.....
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My comment about it costing more than $50 was me being a smart-aleck. It's nit-picky and silly. You stay to serious and you're gonna frown your way into an early grave.
And Will, where are you getting this from? You keep hammering this statement, are you hoping that if you repeat it enough it will become gospel? Look, I'm just a guy, totally not involved in the inner workings of the company, but I sure as heck didn't see the memo where we were supposed to 'Deny all problems associated with Amps A, B, and C'. The way I see it, problems were addressed, changes were made, we move on. Hence whatever Rev that we're on right now. I'm pretty sure we're not required to make an annoucement to the press every time we change something. Maybe the world is so TMZ'd out watching "news" that Kim Kardashian wore stretch pants to the Carl's Jr. yesterday that we think that we should be privy to all information by RIGHT.
The other portion of your statement has, I believe, been addressed on these forums. But in case you missed it I will throw in MY take on it, as just a guy. I ALSO didn't see the official tech support documents stating "Don't turn up your amp past 5". As far as I know, this was an isolated and uninformed answer from someone in tech support. Could be it was the guy's first week here. Do you have any idea how green some of the kids are up there? I don't think some of them can even shave yet. I'd be shocked if most of them knew the difference between Ampex and Ampeg when they sit down at their desk on their first day. Do you get where I'm coming from?
TB doesn't care how hard it is for Ampeg to get everything right. They just want their amp to run for the price they paid. Not too much to ask.
This is one of those "When is the last time you beat your wife" threads, where no matter what anyone says, it will be wrong. Whatever.
It was a copy-n-pasted email, from Ampeg (LOUD) themselves, to a customer themselves. Should it really matter where it came from? Should any company ever treat their customers like that?
I'm just trying to help my neighbor get a working pf rig again after his self-destructed at the ripe old age of 3 years. In my book, amps last for 30, not 3.
Ampeg's made a ton of great stuff, but it ain't this stuff.
For any electronic assembly there will be a percentage of failures while under warranty. A corporation will have a rational reaction to the failure rate, and will implement a plan going forward, to reduce the cost of defects under warranty. A consumer who owns one unit, out of warranty, who experiences a premature failure sees a 100% failure rate, which can result in a loss of several hundred dollars, and is likely to have an emotional reaction to the failure, and loss. I have been very happy with my PF-500, but I only use it at low volume, in the living room at home. If I was gigging, and it failed, or if in a few years, after light use it fails, you can bet I'll be pissed. If Loud made some effort to acknowledge early design, or component problems, and offered a little extra support for out of warranty defects it would buy some goodwill, and be money well spent.
BTW, when I explained to the guy where we are at in this deal, he took pretty kindly to being able to check out a pf350, as he can try one at our local GC here, possibly get an amp that apparently has far fewer problems and keep his Ampeg tone....with a fresh warranty. It's not like I'm trying to steer the guy away from Ampeg, I'm just trying to get him one that will work, ya know, so he can plug in and jam all that great tone without having to worry if it's going to $#!+ the bed.
Depending on how things transpire here, you may very well be able to chalk up yet another new unit sale for Ampeg because they made a crap 500. Nope...not trying to persuade him towards GK, or Peavey, or anyone else. Just trying to get the guy the sound he loves in something that will actually make sound for some amount of time that is measured in decades, instead of years, months, or even days.
Is this how they treat all their customers? If so, they deserve to go belly-up and become fish food...as much as it pains me to say that about what is pretty much an institution in the wide, wide, world of bass.
Depending on how things transpire here, you may very well be able to chalk up yet another new unit sale for Ampeg because they made a crap 500. Nope...not trying to persuade him towards GK, or Peavey, or anyone else. Just trying to get the guy the sound he loves in something that will actually make sound for some amount of time that is measured in decades, instead of years, months, or even days.
Is this how they treat all their customers? If so, they deserve to go belly-up and become fish food...as much as it pains me to say that about what is pretty much an institution in the wide, wide, world of bass.
+1
Child labor is cheap, who cares if the customer is getting uninformed information.
I like you Hodgy, but you're fighting a losing battle here. Don't go down with the ship, the suits don't give a damn about your honor.
LOUD just needs to fess up, admit there are problems, give people a reasonable solution and move on....not blame it all on some poor schmuck new hire in the customer service cubicle, or blame the customers for cranking up an Ampeg.
Their resisting this makes them look like far bigger asses than if they just took care of it the right way to start with.
They're getting to be like a modern-day Nixon......the coverup being worse than the crime.
Fix the damn problem, give older customers ammicable solutions, stop blaming everybody else for their own shortcomings and move on, please.....thank you.
Please don't try to defend the company by saying they just hire kids that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. It just makes you look bad.
They've got a PR problem on their hands here that is not going to be solved by arguing with me on the internet. Typical short-sightedness there.
DING DING DING......everyone to their neutral corners!
Sorry...missed this post.
Moving to my neutral corner now.
Sorry...missed this post.
Moving to my neutral corner now.
Get a drink of water and a little rub down, check your wrist wraps
Get a drink of water and a little rub down, check your wrist wraps
I'm getting a bigger mouthpiece and thinner gloves with some staples in them for these punks.
Kidding...really. I like these guys.
Well saidI like you Hodgy, but you're fighting a losing battle here. Don't go down with the ship, the suits don't give a damn about your honor.
LOUD just needs to fess up, admit there are problems, give people a reasonable solution and move on....not blame it all on some poor schmuck new hire in the customer service cubicle, or blame the customers for cranking up an Ampeg.
Their resisting this makes them look like far bigger asses than if they just took care of it the right way to start with.
They're getting to be like a modern-day Nixon......the coverup being worse than the crime.
Fix the damn problem, give older customers ammicable solutions, stop blaming everybody else for their own shortcomings and move on, please.....thank you.
The first step on a journey to a wonderful life.
Sincerely, thank YOU, man.
I love you....and your stuff.
