Double Bass Another Screw question

[Musicalhossgal]

Hi y’all - I lost the Screw to my Engelhardt tuning gear (G string) at a gig. Looked everywhere, played the gig on 3 strings, got home and snuck out the screw for the E to try to match it up at stores etc. No luck. I’ve ordered some screws from Upton, hopefully will work. Only need one! Now I’m unable to get the screw back in. Seems the spring steel that sits behind the gear is keeping me from setting the screw. (I know… lots of “that’s what she said opportunities here. Any suggestions would be appreciated

 

[BassFalcon]

My thread here may help you out, I can’t guarantee it though, most older Kay stuff and enhlehardt stuff is usually the same but not always. At the very least you could look up an article regarding determining screw size and thread count and I’m sure the Bolt Depot that I link in that thread would have it. Buy 6 of them, lol. Whenever you do find the correct one putting some loktite thread locker on there is always a good idea (the removable not the permanent) If all else fails, there’s always these: Standard Tuning Machines (Keys, Tuners) for Upright Bass

best of luck!

 

[Musicalhossgal]

My thread here may help you out, I can’t guarantee it though, most older Kay stuff and enhlehardt stuff is usually the same but not always. At the very least you could look up an article regarding determining screw size and thread count and I’m sure the Bolt Depot that I link in that thread would have it. Buy 6 of them, lol. Whenever you do find the correct one putting some loktite thread locker on there is always a good idea (the removable not the permanent) If all else fails, there’s always these: Standard Tuning Machines (Keys, Tuners) for Upright Bass

best of luck!

Thanks, read it indeed yesterday. Good thread. Getting the screw will be a project for sure for the G string and appreciated Bolt Depot link. Though I’d like to be able to get the screw I do have back in. Very frustrating. I’ll try again today.

 

[Musicalhossgal]

My thread here may help you out, I can’t guarantee it though, most older Kay stuff and enhlehardt stuff is usually the same but not always. At the very least you could look up an article regarding determining screw size and thread count and I’m sure the Bolt Depot that I link in that thread would have it. Buy 6 of them, lol. Whenever you do find the correct one putting some loktite thread locker on there is always a good idea (the removable not the permanent) If all else fails, there’s always these: Standard Tuning Machines (Keys, Tuners) for Upright Bass

best of luck!

It looks like might need a longer screw, if that’s a possibility

 

[Steven Ayres]

I’m unable to get the screw back in. Seems the spring steel that sits behind the gear is keeping me from setting the screw.

First, so it's been said, the tuning machines used by Englehardt-Link are quite different from the Kluson sets on Kay-made basses.

The spring provides a wider range of variable tension, but complicates assembly. You'll need to compress the spring with the spur gear in place before the screw will fit. A longer screw probably won't work. You may find it simpler to take the entire assembly off the bass so you can clamp it to a bench.

I haven't studied them, but I expect that over fifty years in business E-L used some different versions of these machines, so if you can share a photo here the members will have a better idea what you're up against.

 

[Musicalhossgal]

First, so it's been said, the tuning machines used by Englehardt-Link are quite different from the Kluson sets on Kay-made basses.

The spring provides a wider range of variable tension, but complicates assembly. You'll need to compress the spring with the spur gear in place before the screw will fit. A longer the screw probably won't work. You may find it simpler to take the entire assembly off the bass so you can clamp it to a bench.

I haven't studied them, but I expect that over fifty years in business E-L used some different versions of these machines, so if you can share a photo here the members will have a better idea what you're up against.

 

[Musicalhossgal]

Photos added attached

 

[Steven Ayres]

I expect that the roller is recessing into the space at the end of its drilling. With the string off it may be easier to move it into place before applying the gear and screw.

This thread is a good reminder that it's a good idea to check tension on the screws once in a while.

 

[Musicalhossgal]

I expect that the roller is recessing into the space at the end of its drilling. With the string off it may be easier to move it into place before applying the gear and screw.

This thread is a good reminder that it's a good idea to check tension on the screws once in a while.

Bingo. Going out to get my Loctite now thank you thank you thank you - Yes indeedy! One would not think of not checking a banjo string tuner. Lesson learned the hard way.