Anti-neck dive device?

[fretlessman71]

Just saw the "dingus". Makes sense.

A lot of people - myself included - don't have any problems with most basses because my forearm rests on the lower bass bout, or the round edge of the body nearest the E string saddle (where the bevel is on a Fender bass). Because of this, my forearm holds up the neck by acting as a lever stop.

Certain basses don't lend themselves to this technique well - ABGs, slab-style bodies, some Ibanez models, and so on. That's where I think a device like this would be most useful for me.

I think that everyone has a different way to balance the bass, and trying to "design balance into the bass" might work for some and not work for others. But I'm not a luthier; maybe there's a universal rule that should be followed more often.

I know that Rick Turner's basses are often hollow, and this ALWAYS contributes to neck dive. No matter how you slice it, less mass in the body = higher neck-to-body mass ratio.

 

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The Steinberger Synapse uses a hook gizmo dealy to lengthen the horn.

I had some neck dive problems when I got my warmoth wenge/ebony neck for my P bass. I put some fishing weights in the control cavity and it balanced out the problem.

 

[MR PC]

Compare Rick's bass to the Rob Allen Bass. The long scale models. You'll see that the Turner bass bridge placement is closer to the center of the body than it is on the Allen bass, putting the headstock further out in space.

 

[fretlessman71]

Compare Rick's bass to the Rob Allen Bass. The long scale models. You'll see that the Turner bass bridge placement is closer to the center of the body than it is on the Allen bass, putting the headstock further out in space.

You're right - it looks as if he's trying to take advantage of the bridge pressure on the vibrating top, like an archtop instrument. So it forces the headstock out another 3 inches or so, making it the oil-derrick-from-hell. But I bet it sounds KILLER.

 

[MR PC]

I think you are right about the the bridge placement. I never thought of it that way before. Oh yes, the fretless ones really sing. There was an all Figured Claro Walnut Model with an Ebony Board that slipped by me. Rick's instruments are beautiful, dingus or no dingus.

 

[fretlessman71]

And if you don't like the dingus, I'm sure a little TP would take care of it.

 

[lug]

Got this off of ebay a few years ago but can't find it again.

 

[detracti]

I suppose you could always put a strap button on the back of the headstock a-la acoustic guitar.

That'd take care of it

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[fretlessman71]

Got this off of ebay a few years ago but can't find it again.

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It LOOKS nice and all... but you put it on the wrong horn!

 

[Haunter112]

Attaching the strap to the headstock (shoestring method) might actually work with a ABG.

It sure would look goofy with a P-bass though.

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Design flaw... get a new bass.

 

[ghiadub]

I bought a dingus for my Turner Ren. I don't think it will work with other basses as well though as the method for attaching it is specific to the ren's bolt pattern.

Get a 4" strap and put some neoprene (you know, wetsuit stuff) in the inside where it sits on your shoulder, that should be all you need for most basses.

 

[fretlessman71]

I bought a dingus for my Turner Ren. I don't think it will work with other basses as well though as the method for attaching it is specific to the ren's bolt pattern.

Get a 4" strap and put some neoprene (you know, wetsuit stuff) in the inside where it sits on your shoulder, that should be all you need for most basses.

Right, to induce friction so the bass doesn't slide? Makes sense.

When I use leather straps with suede on the inside I have very little problems with it. But sometimes basses do overbalance, even with the grip at the shoulder - my Univox Lectra does that a lot...

 

[Mr M]

I bought a dingus for my Turner Ren.

Can you post a picture of dingus? I looked to Turner webpage but could not find a picture.


There is also the thing found on Bolin basses

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[fretlessman71]

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[Mr M]

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Thanks a lot

 

[Mr M]

Here is a homemade project by TB'er Kelly Lee. A smart solution.

 

[quigg]

I just put a bunch of rubber bands on my strap, doesnt look great but it stops the neck-dive, and it doesn't hurt my shoulder for extended playing.

 

[MR PC]

Here is a homemade project by TB'er Kelly Lee. A smart solution.

Yup, all manner of dinguses 'll do da job! Excellent solution.

 

[bassrique]

The Steinberger Synapse uses a hook gizmo dealy to lengthen the horn.

I had some neck dive problems when I got my warmoth wenge/ebony neck for my P bass. I put some fishing weights in the control cavity and it balanced out the problem.

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[xk49w]

Another alternative is one that replaces the back plate like the ASAT ASE (at least I think it replaces it).

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