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Any auto mechanics out there......

This is true. Those are accurate but they are hard to use if you aren't standing right over it to read it correctly. I have on old Craftsman like that. It belonged to my dad who bought bit in the late 60's. I absolutely trust it and still use it when it's practical.

The only time I use a beam style torque wrench is when setting the pinion bearing preload in a diff. You use it to read the turning torque as you crush the crush sleave. That's the only tool you can use for that that I know of.
 
I feel ya. If you think aftermarket warranty is bad you should try factory warranty. I get a kick out of the new guys that come through the first time they get screwed working on a car under factory warranty. "What do you mean I just worked on this car for three hours and your going to pay me two tenths". LOL Get used to it son. It's actualy worse now because Chysler's made it to where you have to be certified to work on cars under warranty, which is cool, but that basicaly means the longer you've been there and the more you've put into training yourself the more you get the shaft. There's nothing quite like working all day to put a turbo in a truck under warranty that pays less that three hours, while the kid next to you racks up a dozen hours doing service work on a used car. Luckily our newest SM see's the value in sending the kids to school to get them trained, at least on paper. Fun!

That just sounds crazy. Book time should be book time IMO.

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I feel ya. If you think aftermarket warranty is bad you should try factory warranty. I get a kick out of the new guys that come through the first time they get screwed working on a car under factory warranty. "What do you mean I just worked on this car for three hours and your going to pay me two tenths". LOL Get used to it son. It's actualy worse now because Chysler's made it to where you have to be certified to work on cars under warranty, which is cool, but that basicaly means the longer you've been there and the more you've put into training yourself the more you get the shaft. There's nothing quite like working all day to put a turbo in a truck under warranty that pays less that three hours, while the kid next to you racks up a dozen hours doing service work on a used car. Luckily our newest SM see's the value in sending the kids to school to get them trained, at least on paper. Fun!

The more you know the less you get. We've got guys in our shop that have been there 10 years that somehow duck any warranty and check engine light job that comes in, all they want to do is hang brakes and do alignments all day. Ball-less management cater to these clowns because they need bodies in the shop. Things would be wayyy different if I was in a management position..... like those guys would be slinging brakes at the muffler shop down the street.

National Account labor times blow, too. We service a fleet of Terminix trucks and the last rear drum brake job I did (shoes, hardware, turn drums, clean & lube everything plus test drive paid a whopping .3 hours. Next one is going to be shoes and ship it for that little pay.
 
That just sounds crazy. Book time should be book time IMO.

lowsound

I'd also like to see that, and have the "book" give time concessions for vehicle condition, since the service writers never will. Labor times are computed on new cars, when the car is a ten year old salted up rotbox we're expected to complete the job as if the car were rust free. Yeah, sure :rolleyes:
 
The book is just a guide but the SA's consider it to be the labor Bible.

The warranty time thing is crap, though. I didn't build it, I didn't buy it and I certainly didn't break it. Tell the CEO's if they want it fixed for a reduced rate then they need to come on down and do it themselves.
 
lol. Went to Chevy school about 17 years ago. Became a paramedic/firefighter when I graduated, because people were a LOT easier to work on, I didn't have to spend my whole paycheck on tools, and I was making twice the money. Except cars don't have explosive diarrhea, I guess that's one advantage to being a mechanic.
 
You know, if it wasnt for the physicle issues id have no problems with my job at all. I still find it challenging and mostly a.good time. I like having a stack of RO's full of electrical and driveability issues. As long as i can still make a good week i'm happy.
 
You know, if it wasnt for the physicle issues id have no problems with my job at all. I still find it challenging and mostly a.good time. I like having a stack of RO's full of electrical and driveability issues. As long as i can still make a good week i'm happy.

If it wasn't for the pay issues I'd be happier. Physically I'm still doing pretty well for being 46.... yeah my knees and ankles bother me but I still run circles around the young guys in the shop. I just expect to be paid for my efforts, efficiency and experience. Dealing with SA's and SW's who don't know how to properly price a job, give stuff away and shaft the tech is a daily chore and I'm tired of it.
 
I get a whole lot better pay working in auto parts than I ever did turning wrenches. My automotive experience landed me a better paying job in the store, so I didn't have to start at the bottom. Something to consider.


Back in the 80's I did the auto parts thing for a few years at a big chain parts store. Pay was crap but it was a fun job.... other than dealing with the DIY'er mentality.

Management offered me an assistant manager position and the pay was less than what I was making turning wrenches, so I politely declined the offer. Around here, at least, there's more $ in the shop than there is behind the counter.
 
Mike N. you're pretty lucky to only have your knees and ankles bothering you at 46. This profession has taken my neck, back, knees. I have arthritis, tendinitis, carpal tunnel and torn rotator cuff's. My ears ring constantly and the list goes on. When I was younger I was warned about what this profession will do to you over the years. I did not listen and are now paying the price for my mistake.