Any experiences with Pitbull guitars bass kits?

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[Son of Wobble]

Trademark and copyright are two very different things, for whatever that's worth. I did make some illegal copies as a kid, and I stopped doing that. I do gripe about having to pay for the same music multiple times due to format changes, though.

Speaking of alternate releases, bholder, you no doubt are aware that there were variant front covers for King Crimson's 'Discipline' album due to copyright issues surrounding the Celtic Knot featured -- one of which looks quite like your icon. Which Knot are you using, and to which artist are you paying your licensing fees?

 

[Aceonbass]

Kodiak.....It doesn't matter if RIC sells unfinished kits or not. The body and headstock shapes are trademarked, and the owner of a trademark is responsible for policing their trademarks. That said, its not our job, so let's get back on topic and talk about building these kits.

 

[JACink]

I think that deserves repeating:

the owner of a trademark is responsible for policing their trademarks. That said, its not our job, so let's get back on topic and talk about building these kits.

 

[kodiakblair]

Your right this ain't getting the build done.

 

[eightyearsapril]

Before this thread gets closed, I should reply to my replies...

they ship to the United States? I can't find any info about shipping from their site hahah.

Yes, they do. I asked before ordering my kit (the IB-6S), and was charged AU$50 for shipping. It took a week to get from Perth, Western Australia to the Philadelphia suburbs.

Cool, post some pics when finished. I'd love to see it.

I am posting photos in my build thread.

 

[mbelue]

But it's likely the same people! If I'm wrong, and it's not, then I owe you and Pitbull an apology. Again, the only way to find out is to ask.

I see this entirely the opposite.
If you only wanted information and had no interest in tattling, you would have emailed Pit bull.
Instead you watched your brother sneak a cookie and told Mom.
Of course this is just my opinion and acknowledge the facts of trademark law.

Also if you want to know "the law" wouldn't you talk to an attorney? Rickenbacker doesn't have any bearing on if this kit is legal, only if it is worth their time and money for them to sue.
Again this is my limited understanding of trademark law.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Speaking of alternate releases, bholder, you no doubt are aware that there were variant front covers for King Crimson's 'Discipline' album due to copyright issues surrounding the Celtic Knot featured -- one of which looks quite like your icon. Which Knot are you using, and to which artist are you paying your licensing fees?

bobby would be very unhappy

 

[4merDrummer]

bholder.....Not sure where you got your info, but you are in fact incorrect. Because something looks similar to another manufacturer's design, doesn't make it illegal. There are THOUSANDS of products sold legally by changing small aspects, features, branding, etc.

I have a little experience in this area and have worked with the Oakley task force in the past. As you can imagine.....I have seen about a bazillion pairs of fake sunglasses.

From what I see on the Pitbull site, I don't think Ric would be able to prove a case. I doub't that they are concerned with Pitbull, but I am sure they could use the corporate machine to bury them in legal fees.

 

[Gully Foyle]

random question kit-wise, and i fear i know the answer already, but since there are a bunch of kit-thinkin' folks look at this thread, anyone ever see a medium-scale kit? i know, i know...but who knows....

 

[Splods]

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For anyone interested. This is a website about Australian IP and trademarks. It looks like Rickenbacker forgot to renew the trademark back in 2007, and as a result the trademarks have been removed from the register. So these kits, which only have a resemblance to Rickenbacker, are legal anyway because Rickenbacker's IP has not been protected in Australia for the past 7 years.

Furthermore, as this company is producing a kit which is not an exact copy of a Rickenbacker trademark, a local trademark could then be registered in Australia for this design, guaranteeing the legality of this production.

 

[Splods]

Gully Foyle

@ Gully Foyle
This kit is a 30 inch. Medium scale kits are kinda rare.

 

[kodiakblair]

Guilty Foyle

What a part of medium scale interest you ? Do you have bother with the reach i.e. the longer neck ?

Or is it the stretch ?

I'm asking because the difference between nut to 3rd fret from Medium to Long is 8.4mm or .33 of an inch.

If it's the reach there's ways round that, move the neck further into the pocket while moving the bridge back.

 

[Gully Foyle]

As I have reached middle age, I have begun to develop nerve pain in my elbow, wrist and fingers of my fretting hand. My 34 sits unused. Picked up a 30, and no pain, but hate the e string. Discovered 32, and it's the best of both worlds, no pain and e sounds like it should.

I think both stretch and reach are probably contributing.

 

[scourgeofgod]

random question kit-wise, and i fear i know the answer already, but since there are a bunch of kit-thinkin' folks look at this thread, anyone ever see a medium-scale kit? i know, i know...but who knows....

Never seen a 32" kit

 

[Splods]

Your best bet would be to look at Warmoth for some 32 inch scale necks.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Hmmm, random thought, but since my knock on 30'a is the e string sound, maybe I'll build that violin, but set it up for strings to support an A D G C tuning

 

[scourgeofgod]

Your best bet would be to look at Warmoth for some 32 inch scale necks.

This is sound advice, but keed in mind Warmoth insist their necks only work with their own special medium scaled specific bodies, should be simple enough for an experienced craftsman to build hid own body to accept the neck though.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Your best bet would be to look at Warmoth for some 32 inch scale necks.

Ive two 32 warmoths in process, but I am having them assembled by my favorite luthier. I'm thinking cheap for me to learn

 

[Splods]

And if you build your own body, you can make the bridge as close to the end of the body as possible, which would make a 32 inch neck have the same reach as a 31 inch. A big deal for people with tendon and nerve issues.