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Any hope for authentic Fender Precision?

#41
SanDiegoHarry said:
Sigh.

I believe that this stems from the strange belief many folks have that they should expect - no, are ENTITLED to - an unrealistic price for a piece of legit gear.

If someone tried to sell me a "real" Fender USA P-bass for $200, I'd suspect it was a copy, a fake or a scam.

If you want a read Fender bass - buy a real Fender bass (whatever that means, which Fenders made everywhere anymore).
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It's hard to cheat someone who ISN'T trying to get something for nothing.

Most Fender American Precisions are in the $800 - $1200 range. Then someone sees one for $200 and asks "Is it real."
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#43
buldog5151bass said:
This has been going on for decades. Without naming names, it was going on at a store near me decades ago. It's only getting worse.

I just don't understand the desire to mislabel something.
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There are two reasons that come to mind:

1) In order to scam someone
2) In order to fool yourself and feel better, which is akin to stuffing a sock down your pants.

I envision a guy slapping the decal on, stuffing the sock down, kicking it on the couch admiring both and saying "Oh yeah. I've really got it going on."

The truth always comes out.
 
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I don't think you got burned at $200. It looks like a very nice bass. The fake fender thing is epidemic. I was in a pawnshop about 6 months ago and saw an obvious Squier Affinity P with a Fender Jazz decal. I pointed it out to the manager, but rather than seeming interested in doing the right thing, he looked uncomfortable and said that's what the guy they bought it from said and lamely said he would tell the owner. It was still on the wall when I left.
 
#45
Gilmourisgod said:
Id be nervous to buy any Fender-ish bass without a lot of study, so many parts floating around. Why is it legal to sell fake decals on ebay? No copyright issues?
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Gravedigger Dav said:
I don't think you got burned at $200. It looks like a very nice bass. The fake fender thing is epidemic. I was in a pawnshop about 6 months ago and saw an obvious Squier Affinity P with a Fender Jazz decal. I pointed it out to the manager, but rather than seeming interested in doing the right thing, he looked uncomfortable and said that's what the guy they bought it from said and lamely said he would tell the owner. It was still on the wall when I left.
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You should speak to the owner. He's the one with the rep to maintain (about which he/she may or may not care).
 
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Gravedigger Dav said:
I don't think you got burned at $200. It looks like a very nice bass. The fake fender thing is epidemic. I was in a pawnshop about 6 months ago and saw an obvious Squier Affinity P with a Fender Jazz decal. I pointed it out to the manager, but rather than seeming interested in doing the right thing, he looked uncomfortable and said that's what the guy they bought it from said and lamely said he would tell the owner. It was still on the wall when I left.
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Yea, he's going to tell the owner that the bass he paid $600 is worth $200 ... or not. :D
 
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#49
If you want to put a Fender decal on your $150 SX bass, it is your bass and your decal. If you want to sell your SX bass with the Fender decal as a FENDER bass and not an SX bass with a Fender decal, that is of course WRONG. Some day you may be in Chinatown and a guy will come up to you, open his coat, and have fake Fender basses hanging inside..............well maybe not.
 
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GreyBeard said:
If you want to put a Fender decal on your $150 SX bass, it is your bass and your decal. If you want to sell your SX bass with the Fender decal as a FENDER bass and not an SX bass with a Fender decal, that is of course WRONG. Some day you may be in Chinatown and a guy will come up to you, open his coat, and have fake Fender basses hanging inside..............well maybe not.
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GB - the issue has been discussed before. Unless you are planning on being buried with that axe, someone else is going to have it, and likely will not care about keeping it, nor will know that you made the change, and will sell it.
 
#54
Are the Fender decals fake or are they authorized by Fender? Sorry if my Chinatown comment offended anyone, I love Chinatown and it is usually the 1st place I go when I visit NY. A few years back I took my HS band to NY for the St. Patrick's day parade and the 1st place we went was Chinatown. Those kids had more fun there than at any other place in NY and we went to a bunch of places.
 
#57
lfmn16 said:
+1

It's hard to cheat someone who ISN'T trying to get something for nothing.

Most Fender American Precisions are in the $800 - $1200 range. Then someone sees one for $200 and asks "Is it real."
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When those same folks are too lazy to educate themselves even a little about Fender basses (e.g., the most obvious issue on most of these fakes is the trussrod adjustment at the headstock) it's a sure recipe for a scam.
 
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buldog5151bass said:
The problem is that not all counterfeits are that obvious, and not every buyer is as educated as most people here. Most people would reasonably assume that if something says "Fender" on it, it is a Fender. Think back to when you were a teen.
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When I was a teen, I couldn't go online and easily educate myself about Fender basses enough not to get ripped off by a quick and dirty decal switch.

No matter how much we crusade against fakes, they're still gonna be out there. How can we warn kids and other newbies of the danger and get them to learn the tricks of the trade?
 
#60
gln1955 said:
When I was a teen, I couldn't go online and easily educate myself about Fender basses enough not to get ripped off by a quick and dirty decal switch.

No matter how much we crusade against fakes, they're still gonna be out there. How can we warn kids and other newbies of the danger and get them to learn the tricks of the trade?
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All we can do is answer questions when asked, and not promote the practice by making our own counterfeits, so the issue is not more confused.
 
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