I’ve got a fender bassman 610 cabinet I love and I keep thinking about buying a bassman 410 that I don’t really need
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Anyone else this crazy with their gear?
- Thread starter faulknersj
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As one who has owned all of the AE cabs and some each of the HT, CN, HDN, HG and now NXT cabs, I can tell you that all of them have that accurate Bergantino sound. I can't really say that any of them sounded "better" than the others. Why do I keep selling them and getting the latest? I'm just a "newer and shinier" kind of guy with no cocaine habit. While I really like my NXT322 stack, I'd be just as happy with the AE equivalent. More power to you.
Nope. When I started relying on boutique pedals to get my sound (and realizing how many boutique guys just stop building or it's a one man shop where anything in life can happen), I got a backup.
faulknersj, @agedhorse often talks about how parts vanish over time for most products.
Have you ever inquired to Bergantino if you could buy an extra speaker, crossover card, etc., to buy and put back for a rainy day? I'd be very surprised if the speakers themselves were of the shelf, almost certainly bespoke.
Have you ever inquired to Bergantino if you could buy an extra speaker, crossover card, etc., to buy and put back for a rainy day? I'd be very surprised if the speakers themselves were of the shelf, almost certainly bespoke.
Your post motivated me to dig out my 1996 Eden WT-300 to see why I liked it. I had a D-410XLT and D-410XST back when I could lift them with a WT-800C to drive them. Anyway, I plugged the WT-300 into my CN210 prototype and ran through some of the tones. It certainly is a different flavor from Jim's amps - I used to think you couldn't hear the tube in the front end of the Eden but that, along with that big ol' toroidal transformer, seems to add some thickness to the sound. It almost seems a little "spongy." I can see why you'd like the Eden gear. It's why I've kept that amp since I bought it in '96. I still prefer the clean sound of the Bergantino amps, and I can dial in a little of the tube feel if I need it.
There’s never an application where 2 cabinets isn’t better than 1.
I haven’t but that might be worth exploring…
Maybe there latest 10” neo drivers could even be a slight upgrade?
IF you are that imprinted with the tone of that cabinet, bear in mind those drivers were tweaked, or a bespoke version of a standard built JUST for that application. Very rarely does subbing in something that 'looks close' on paper ever work out.
This sort of thing is far easier on open-backed guitar cabinets. But bass cabinets with their dimensions, damping, bracing, how and what kind of porting used require drivers built to work inside the numbers all that produces to do what the designer had in mind. Changing to off-the-shelf speakers rarely provides a good outcome, especially 1 out of 4 in a cabinet like this.
You can't rebuild a car engine simply buy using any piston that fits in the cylinder(s). Think of this the same way.
i totally get it.
i'm still annoyed that markbass was 100% useless when my SD800 made in 2007 was having issues. service center could not help, MB never answered my calls for help.
so i had no choice but to try and replace it. it's still my favorite sounding head, but it can't be fixed, cant be replaced, and if i find a used one it's only a matter of time before the same thing happens.
i'm so nuts that i'm going to have a friend make a kemper profile of it, and i'll buy a profile player to use with a power amp to replicate this sound. madness. but, it's my only logical choice.
i'm still annoyed that markbass was 100% useless when my SD800 made in 2007 was having issues. service center could not help, MB never answered my calls for help.
so i had no choice but to try and replace it. it's still my favorite sounding head, but it can't be fixed, cant be replaced, and if i find a used one it's only a matter of time before the same thing happens.
i'm so nuts that i'm going to have a friend make a kemper profile of it, and i'll buy a profile player to use with a power amp to replicate this sound. madness. but, it's my only logical choice.
This is so tragic! I had a Mark Bass head that died back then as well and will never buy another one because of how disappointing that experience was.
Have you found some used ones to stash? The Kemper idea would be awesome if you can nail the sound!
nope, not crazy. I love my Berg cabs (CN112, CN212, NV212t). Not sure I would actually buy two of each, but I don't think your crazy to have grabbed another AE 410.
enjoy!
enjoy!
If it sounds good to you, then it sounds good.
YOU are the bass player. Be in charge of bass.
YOU are the bass player. Be in charge of bass.
Thats how I feel about my SWR cabs (currently passively looking for secondaries), no matter how "Hey, Rib13, 1999 just called and they want those bass cabs back!" they look
