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Anyone Ever Thought of This?

when you have ridiculous stage volume with more than one guitar player on both sides of stage. stupid little monitors don't work. And being a drummer too the most annoying thing in the world is a cranked up drum monitor. I'd rather set my kit up off the riser forward on the stage and hear the amps. not a cracking crap monitor. the only thing needed on monitors is vocals and keyboards if you have them. yes I'm aware of comb filtering. but you standing in front of your amp. no comb filtering. You can't hear the other side. the guitar player won't hear the combing either cause he can't hear your side. the audience won't hear it cause of the mains. we didn't get signed and sell out shows cause we were so worried about comb filtering. we sold records cause we were powerful loud and energetic. And we paid our own sound man so we didn't have to argue with goobers that don't understand how rock n roll works lol. the points been made well how much combing do you think you get with the mains and a bunch of spread out cracking poop monitors. if your in a normal band at fairly low stage volumes. then no using a cab on both sides of the stage is pointless. but if your in a very very loud band with multiple guitar players then it works out rather well. And yes your gonna need a sound man that actually knows what he is doing. not some dude that sits there and argues " cause he's been doing this for 20 or
so years"

I'm sorry, maybe I had 1 too many and feelin feisty, BUT...IN MY OPINION :
you started this off with 'if stage volume is too loud '.
Let me just address this..
In a 'pro band sitch' the stage volume won't be 'too loud'. So I can assume that the rest of what you said does not apply.
(And I am ONLY ADDRESSING the comment about 'ridiculous stage volume '

Now, that said, I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN, but I play with pros and always have pro sound..

As being in 'pro situations' I have never had experience with 'ridiculous stage volumes '. If the sound guy and band are doing things correctly, that is NOT necessary.
IN -MY - EXPERIENCE :
Volumes on stage are reasonable and it is much louder in audience than on stage.
ALL instruments go through PA, whether small room /large room. (Note to ALL- This ins not for VOLUME necessarily, but to keep the sound the (pretty much)the same, regardless of where u stand in the crowd.

And last, not least ALL INSTRUMENTS go thru monitors, again, so we can ALL hear *** is going on on stage , without someone cranking up over another, everybody can say how much of who they want in their own monitor.

So yea, I know maybe we can't all have our choice of who we heat, and how loud.
But I had to comment on your quote of 'ridiculous stage volume ', which is NEVER a desirable situation.

If I took you out of context, my apologies.

Carry on.

T $ out.
 
One other thing to consider, if the guitar players hear you better, will they think you are too loud and crank up their amps?

Otto
FYI - One of the guitar players (we have two) shows up with a 100 watt Fender PA amp head and Marshal 212 cab! Drove the sound guy nuts trying to get his vocal mike not to feed back, and constantly telling him to turn down! He was LOUD! But, he is such a good guitarist, I didn't mind! He was right in front of my rig, so maybe that had some affect on his volume! Funny!