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Anyone here ever go on a fast?
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You can fast for seven days. That will clean you out. Drink only water.
This won't hurt you, but also, won't do you much good if you go back to an unhealthy lifestyle. Check out a book called "Tao and Healing" . Some Chinese author who's name I've forgotten. It's about deep meditation and covers the necessity of fasting.
Congratulations, you'll feel like a new person.
This won't hurt you, but also, won't do you much good if you go back to an unhealthy lifestyle. Check out a book called "Tao and Healing" . Some Chinese author who's name I've forgotten. It's about deep meditation and covers the necessity of fasting.
Congratulations, you'll feel like a new person.
If you go with any of the commercial cleansing products, watch out for some of the stinkiest funk-nasty fluids to come out of your body ever.
I've done it before, and it is an enlightening experience to see some of the funk that comes out of your body. Then you realize that same crud has been fermenting in your body.
-Mike
I've done it before, and it is an enlightening experience to see some of the funk that comes out of your body. Then you realize that same crud has been fermenting in your body.
-Mike
Did that affect the funkiness of your bass lines, Mike?
Thanks for the tip on water. Being well hydrated is a necessity regardless of diet. I'll look into the health food colon cleaning thing and Tao and Healing.
BassManPatsFan, I know a fast isn't "supposed to feel good" but I'm sure it's not "supposed" to feel bad either. Like a trip to the dentist. Maybe you're not into it because it's been imposed on you rather than something you do by choice.
Dis, thanks for the liquid diet idea. I'll look into that. On the IQ thing, did you break 300?
Jazzin' I think I might join you. This'll be interesting.
Thanks for all the advice so far.
ditto...it wasn't that bad when i was younger for some reason...but ever since i started eating properly (eating breakfast and more times a day) it is soo hard....by iftaar time i'm going crazy...and taking tests at that time pretty much means i fail
i don't really know about fasting for more than one day...i had friends who did the 30-hour famine thing..they just dove right into it..takes a lot of willpower
+1
My opinion is do not fast.
Oh, and if you go on a fast for some time, your body doesn't start metabolizing fat, it goes into a catabolic state and metabolizes muscle.
So, no, don't. Just eat better. Fasting is a bad idea. Drink lots and lots of water and eat plenty of fiber if you're really into the idea of "fasting" to flush your system, but unless it's for some religious reason, just don't. It's not healthy. It's not good for your body.
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Jesus Christ +1!!! I can't believe so many people advocate fasting. If you want to be healthy eat a diet of lean meats and dark and colorful veggies; pair it with exercise and you'll really feel healthy. Not a pain induced euphoria you feel while body eats at the glucose living in your protein (ie. muscles, liver, brain!). If you want your body to eat itself, by all means, fast.
If you want your body to build itself provided with all the materials you need, take a multi-vitamin and fish oil for Omega-3 fatty acids (another thing your body eats in a fast). If you want to speed up the process, drink a Whey protein shake after you work out. Its pure low-calorie fast-absorbing protein that your body is calling out for after exercise, especially lifting.
Carbs. There's lots of talk about them in media. Simple carbs spike your insulin levels and tell your body to store glucose, instead of use it. This means carbs tell your body to store fat. Take it for what you will, just don't think a bread diet will make you thin.
Soy causes estrogen growth. Be wary of vegetarian foods (if you're a man I mean). There are products that will kill estrogen in the body, but thats getting into the more hardcore stuff.
Eat 6 smaller meals a day. It'll fire up your metabolism like never before.
If you're looking for some catabolic exercise, do cardio. It'll burn you bodies stores either way, but if you want anabolic cardio I'd recommend High Intensity Interval Training, basically (sprint, walk, sprint, walk, repeat, repeat).
Also, juice is s*it. It a glass of sugar with the fiber taken out. Stick to water.
Cool. Blackbird, you're in luck, we have a number of experts here. Apparently you're as good as dead.
Now I have fasted, and I have had very little bother with it.
There is no general problem with fasting as long as you don't go about it in a silly way. The best idea is to build up your fasting, from an hour or two to the full day.
You must have a good reason also to fast- whether a religious reason or simply for cleansing and detoxing.
Here is a rough guide for you
1 Drink water. This has the effect of ensuring you won't get headaches and helps your kidneys to do their job.
2 Avoid fasting if you know there is some sort of situation you'll be in where people will take offense. Avoid choosing a day if you are going to a party for example, or where you are attending even something fairly simple like a family event, such as a special meal or trip out.
3 Make sure you feel up to it the day before. If you are ill, busy or particularly active on a certain day, don't go ahead.
4 Make sure the day after that you eat properly and well. Don't gorge on sugar or you'll feel even worse. Sweets and candy are some of the worst things! Also eat well the day before
Combined with a healthier diet and exercise a day of fasting won't harm anyone. There is a lot of scientific evidence to suggest that the human body is designed to be able to go without food for short periods of time (part of our hunter-gatherer background).
There is no general problem with fasting as long as you don't go about it in a silly way. The best idea is to build up your fasting, from an hour or two to the full day.
You must have a good reason also to fast- whether a religious reason or simply for cleansing and detoxing.
Here is a rough guide for you
1 Drink water. This has the effect of ensuring you won't get headaches and helps your kidneys to do their job.
2 Avoid fasting if you know there is some sort of situation you'll be in where people will take offense. Avoid choosing a day if you are going to a party for example, or where you are attending even something fairly simple like a family event, such as a special meal or trip out.
3 Make sure you feel up to it the day before. If you are ill, busy or particularly active on a certain day, don't go ahead.
4 Make sure the day after that you eat properly and well. Don't gorge on sugar or you'll feel even worse. Sweets and candy are some of the worst things! Also eat well the day before
Combined with a healthier diet and exercise a day of fasting won't harm anyone. There is a lot of scientific evidence to suggest that the human body is designed to be able to go without food for short periods of time (part of our hunter-gatherer background).
I agree with everything in this post except for the juice thing. A glass or two of juice a day is very good for you and can provide you with much needed nutrients.
I mix glutamine into a glass of Tropicana OJ twice a day -- my other choices are water, or tea, and I hate cold tea, so the juice it is. Only other thing here to drink is the diet soda my parents drink, and I don't touch that anymore.
Plus, the vitamin C is awesome. Juice being bad for you is a myth, the same as milk and and fat itself being intrinsically bad. I use milk to mix with my whey protein before bed because it slows the absorption (since I don't have any casein protein supplements yet) but I still use water for a morning and/or PWO shake.
Read the book by Stanley Burroughs called The Master Cleanse. If you follow it for the full 10 days you actually CRAVE good things like veggies and fruits and water instead of sodas and snack foods.
Some people have called it quackery including myself but after doing it for 10 days you will be sleeping better, thinking better, eating better and feeling better.
Of course ALWAYS talk to your doctor. I don't beleive alot of the things he says in the book about how it cleanses your body but it DOES make sure you are getting vital nutrients and carbohydrates while fasting.
I try and do it about once every 8 weeks.
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From the above link:
"Grade B maple syrup contains a large variety of minerals and vitamins. These include: potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese, iron, copper, phosphorus, sulfur, chlorine and silicon. Vitamin A, B1, B2, B6, C, nicotinic acid and pantothenic acid are also present."
Go to the above link for the outline of the plan. You don't have to buy all of the filler junk they offer just follow the recipe and make sure to gradually come off the fast with broth (veggie soups) and juice after the tenth day for about two days. Most people that are critics of this plan have never tried it or known of anyone that has.
Some people have called it quackery including myself but after doing it for 10 days you will be sleeping better, thinking better, eating better and feeling better.
Of course ALWAYS talk to your doctor. I don't beleive alot of the things he says in the book about how it cleanses your body but it DOES make sure you are getting vital nutrients and carbohydrates while fasting.
I try and do it about once every 8 weeks.
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http://www.naturalways.com/master-cleanser.htm
From the above link:
"Grade B maple syrup contains a large variety of minerals and vitamins. These include: potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese, iron, copper, phosphorus, sulfur, chlorine and silicon. Vitamin A, B1, B2, B6, C, nicotinic acid and pantothenic acid are also present."
Go to the above link for the outline of the plan. You don't have to buy all of the filler junk they offer just follow the recipe and make sure to gradually come off the fast with broth (veggie soups) and juice after the tenth day for about two days. Most people that are critics of this plan have never tried it or known of anyone that has.
Pfft. Fasting. I don't beleive in anything strong enough to fast. I do know that a lot of the prostitutes in Japan get paid to do high colonic enemas on their clients though. Maybe try that first.
there are reasons for fasting other than body weight and physical modifications. eating is a fundamental, and multiple-times-per-day physiological and psychological mechanism. deny your body that, for one day, as a discipline, with plenty of liquids, and perhaps limited fruit to sustain an otherwise overwhelming fixation with the appetite, and good things can happen, spiritually.
weight loss becomes a by-product (then) of deeper wholeness. I fasted for 36 hours on one desert trip - solo - to examine some big professional/personal choices. Then I ate normal for the next two days alone in Joshua Tree. I drove home having no answers. Three days later - they all came.
weight loss becomes a by-product (then) of deeper wholeness. I fasted for 36 hours on one desert trip - solo - to examine some big professional/personal choices. Then I ate normal for the next two days alone in Joshua Tree. I drove home having no answers. Three days later - they all came.
Honestly, if you're doing it for a religious reason, just do it. Whatever. But unless there is already some deep, spiritual NEED to fast, just eat healthy. Fasting IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR BODY. Any benefits are completely psychosomatic as you have damaged your body and slowed your metabolism by denying it the necessary fuel. If you just start eating healthy and maintain a good diet with a caloric balance (or deficit, if you want to lose weight) with nutritious meals, you'll see changes in such a satisfying and healthy way.
I went from an "okay" diet to an extremely clean diet with a 250 cal/per day deficit and am just eating really healthy things -- bananas, chicken, brown rice, tuna, fat-free yogurt, OJ with glutamine, multivitamin, and 2-3 protein shakes a day. I have never in my life felt better. It's awesome, and with a lot of time in the gym I can already see a difference.
I went from an "okay" diet to an extremely clean diet with a 250 cal/per day deficit and am just eating really healthy things -- bananas, chicken, brown rice, tuna, fat-free yogurt, OJ with glutamine, multivitamin, and 2-3 protein shakes a day. I have never in my life felt better. It's awesome, and with a lot of time in the gym I can already see a difference.
I was assured by several doctors (my personal Dr. and a nutritionist he referred me to) that fasting is perfectly healthy.
so long as you take a multivitamin (as you should every day) you won't be malnourished at all from a 24-48 hour fast.
what you will have is some hunger pains and your metabolism will slow (which is bad if you want to lose weight). when you come off of the fast your body is going to want to store all energy you put into it as fat. not feasting and eating healthy when coming off of your fast is the most important thing to do (health-wise).
of course you should consult YOUR Dr. as everyone's body is differant and you may have specific health problems which prevent fasting from being healthy for you.
now your reasons for fasting are wrong but I think if you do it you will have an overall positive experience.
so long as you take a multivitamin (as you should every day) you won't be malnourished at all from a 24-48 hour fast.
what you will have is some hunger pains and your metabolism will slow (which is bad if you want to lose weight). when you come off of the fast your body is going to want to store all energy you put into it as fat. not feasting and eating healthy when coming off of your fast is the most important thing to do (health-wise).
of course you should consult YOUR Dr. as everyone's body is differant and you may have specific health problems which prevent fasting from being healthy for you.
now your reasons for fasting are wrong but I think if you do it you will have an overall positive experience.
