Anyone SLAP with 15's

[CL400Peavey]

I use a cab loaded with two 15's. Link Removed

 

[spector_boogie]

Claypool did for ages- Mesa Diesel 215's.

 

[dincz]

I use a cab loaded with two 15's. Link Removed

Yeah but that's cheating

 

[CL400Peavey]

Yeah but that's cheating

Cheatin' nothun'! Its called working with whats available for a better option than what was previously available. I even have my horn off 95% of the time.

 

[dincz]

Cheatin' nothun'! Its called working with whats available for a better option than what was previously available. I even have my horn off 95% of the time.

I meant cheating for the purpose of this thread - although he didn't say "slap with ONLY 15's".

 

[jnewmark]

The best slap tone I've ever had is through my Roland DB700 combo, 15 JBL K140 and a tweet with no control. Very sweet tone and seems to be very even from pop to slap. I use a tad of compression which seems to keep the highs in check. I've also slapped with just 215 cabs, no tweet, but the Roland combo is the #$% for me. Of course, there are different slap tones or styles. I'm not going after a Flea type tone, but more of a Verdine White flavor.

 

[JimmyM]

I have an ancient homemade (not by me) 2x15 that has icepick highs without any tweeters. The drivers and amps can make a huge difference even between the same diameter speakers.

Indeed. What speakers do you have in it?

 

[two fingers]

Sure. A 15" speaker is no more "bassy" than 10s. And 10s are no more "bright" out of the box than 15s. There's a lot more to it than that. Amp, strings, tuning of the cab, etc. all factor into tone.

 

[Bmorefoozler]

Claypool did for ages- Mesa Diesel 215's.

beat me to it... no tweets either.

 

[Nephilymbass]

I don't always slap on 15s,

But when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.

I was waiting to see someone post this lol

 

[Marley's Ghost]

Jeez, Jaco slapped with an 18" folded horn - the king of mud.

 

[Arjank]

I prefer using a 15", or at least a cab without a tweeter. Hate those slicy icepick highs.

I totally agree that most of these cabs(all 410's 210's etc that I played through) with tweeters sound to sizzly, but that's mainly because of the way they are designed and not because they have a tweeter.
My own design is extremely linear and phasecoherent and the highs do not sound harsh or sizzly, it's more like they are just there and are part of the total sound without drawing attention to themselves.
Just my experience with tweeters...

 

[Arjank]

I have an ancient homemade (not by me) 2x15 that has icepick highs without any tweeters. The drivers and amps can make a huge difference even between the same diameter speakers.

Those 15's probably had a very extreme cone breakup somewhere between 2 and 3.5khz (any driver with a nasty cone breakup sounds like crap to me, some like it though....)
IMO that's not what I call icepick highs, that's more like piercing mids....

 

[JimmyM]

I totally agree that most of these cabs(all 410's 210's etc that I played through) with tweeters sound to sizzly, but that's mainly because of the way they are designed and not because they have a tweeter.
My own design is extremely linear and phasecoherent and the highs do not sound harsh or sizzly, it's more like they are just there and are part of the total sound without drawing attention to themselves.
Just my experience with tweeters...

That's cool. I still don't have much use for highs over 5k but there are way better executions than you see in most bass cabs.

 

[Arjank]

That's cool. I still don't have much use for highs over 5k but there are way better executions than you see in most bass cabs.

Though most basses do not produce much energy above 5khz I still want my cab to be able to produce them. That way I allways have total control over my sound if I send my post-EQ signal to the PA. It would be crap if my signal(that goes to the PA) contains sizzling highs(or noise/hiss) because I did not hear them through my cab.....I like to filter them out myself with the use of the tonescontrols(of the bass and/or pre-amp).

 

[LostInSauce]

Thanks so much for the info fellow TBrs. I think I'm just getting restless with my current rig consisting of an Avatar 4x10 and a Carvin 500W amp.

I play in a rock/metal cover band with a great drummer and competing with two guitarists (also great musicians who know that volume knobs "do not go to 11") each with a 4x12 cab. We're doing Slipnot, Avenged Sevenfold, SOAD, Alice in Chains, Tool...you get the idea.

I'm rather concerned that a stack of two Hartke Hydrive 115's won't be able to keep up the intricate articulation and the volume (which is loud, but not too bad) the songs require. Apart from the ocassional slapping, any metal heads out there using two 15"s?

 

[Chef]

Speaker size has very little to do with how things end up sounding..
What any given cab sounds like has much more to do with box tuning, and, what other components are in there.
Mid driver, compression driver, crossover...

 

[giacomini]

I had a SS Ampeg B3 (1 15") combo that had more top end than any other bass combo I had/tried before. In fact, I had to cut about 30% of the treble to get the tone I like.

So yes, I slapped thru a 15".

 

[Unrepresented]

Indeed. What speakers do you have in it?

Don't recall offhand. It's the cab I leave at our rehearsal space so I have something to plug into without having to drag a carload of gear with me for any rehearsal.

Those 15's probably had a very extreme cone breakup somewhere between 2 and 3.5khz (any driver with a nasty cone breakup sounds like crap to me, some like it though....)
IMO that's not what I call icepick highs, that's more like piercing mids....

High 3K's sounds about right. We'll compromise and rename it "icepick high mids."

 

[4StringShooter]

Looking into changing my rig up a little. Anyone slap (I don't too often, but it's nice to have the capability) with a 15" cabinet...or even a dual 15" cabinet stack?

Thanks all

The only " slapping " I do, is slapping dorks that ask me if I can slap !!!