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Anyone useing Wilson K1 PU?

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by Barcza, Jun 26, 2019.


  1. Barcza

    Barcza

    May 1, 2005
    Budapest
    I never interested to K4 (too midrangy) but, I started to interested in K1!
    Sounds very nice on that Sample comparison to other pickup, has clearer E-A strings sound, and lees distort...

    Lando Music

    Do you use it? Can you share your experience related to FC, BP-100 or Realist pickup?
     
  2. Kristian

    Kristian

    Dec 5, 2008
    Turkey
    I'm using it!
    I had a k4 but had 3 elements cut away.
    Gives you so many options depending where you put the hole and how you turn the pickup in the hole. I've tried realist, b-band,underwood,ehrlund and probably a few more. Has always worked great on all my basses(mixed with a real mic).
     
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  3. dperrott

    dperrott

    Oct 3, 2005
    NYC
    The Wilson K4 works great for me. Never tried the K1. Sounds like you already have made the choice. There is only one way to find out, get it and put it on
     
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  4. flatback

    flatback

    May 6, 2004
    A little off topic but I have wondered about a K2 with one pickup in each leg. I use the Yamahiko right now which is similar...what interests me about a K2 would be the control you could get adjusting two piezos that are kind of...side address... The Yamahiko as close as I can tell is omni directional (the piezo is in the adjuster shaft but does not change sonic ally if you turn the wheel. I had a K4 in the early days and I found the piezos to be very directional and so you could kind of tune what part of the vibrating bridge you wanted them to listen to. I had mine drilled in the traditional way behind each string but I had the luthier set them considerably farther back in the bridge. I don't know if that was a good idea or not back then the amps sucked so bad it's hard to tell. But I think bridges have all kinds of direct, reprercussive, muted, etc vibrations happening and being able to dial them in seems like it could work pretty well. That said the Yamahiko is the best pickup I have tried both in engineering/build and design. Very versatile. But The K1 in the E leg should sound good.
     
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  5. Kristian

    Kristian

    Dec 5, 2008
    Turkey
    I tried one element in each leg but there wasn't any benefit, it's just sounded worse.
    One under each string sounded even worse. Best sound, for me, is one element in the bass foot as close to the top as possible. If I need more mids, I put it in a hole in the middle of the leg. Next step is to turn it until it sounds as good/even as possible. Third step, eq etc.. :)
     
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  6. flatback

    flatback

    May 6, 2004
    Yeah K1 close to the top. Ill bet that sounds pretty good. What about one like that and one up nearer the strings?
     
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  7. Barcza

    Barcza

    May 1, 2005
    Budapest
    How mutch output has the one element?
     
  8. Kristian

    Kristian

    Dec 5, 2008
    Turkey
    I never tried that.
    My small bass with the different holes is in for repair right now but I'll try when I get it back. The hole closest to the top sounds more "natural" however so I doubt that you would like to mix it with something unless you really have to.
     
  9. Emoody

    Emoody Supporting Member

    Jun 3, 2012
    Switzerland
    It fits well for my bass, output ist enough even without a preamp, nice range of sound options by rotating the cell in the bridge.
    Wilson K1.JPG
     
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  10. Maple

    Maple Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    San Francisco Bay Area
    F3D03449-3D34-4977-B675-476A70879CC9.jpeg 2DA82401-1B75-4E67-A76A-428245341EEE.jpeg I have a K4 on my EUB. I first installed it in the recommended location under the strings and then, like @flatback, I experimented with installing it in the “Yamahiko” position
    The stock K4 position has a strong “string” response. On the EUB, that means it sounds like a fretless electric bass. Moving the elements towards the feet give it a bit more of a woody sound.
    Which sounds like an improvement to me. Either way, the EUB still sounds too “electric” to me.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2019
  11. Matthias Hacker

    Matthias Hacker

    Apr 8, 2018
    @Maple, did you try to put only one element into the bridge? Only one can sound best, because with more than one element there will always be phase cancellation going on, possibly resulting in a thinner and weak sound.
    @Barcza, you are right, the Wilson K1 sounds great in the lando music pickup comparison on soundcloud

    I guess it´s a good choice. Easy installation, lightweight and unobstrusive are more good arguments for this pickup.
     
  12. Maple

    Maple Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    San Francisco Bay Area
    @Matthias Hacker - I did try 1, 2 and finally 4 elements. I liked the 4 setup best. Because the pairs are butted together in the same hole and aligned in the same direction, they don't seem to have phasing problems. As far as I can tell, the two elements in the same hole just increases the sound response at that spot on the bridge. I would have probably been happy with the sound of just two elements but leaving two dangling didn't seem like a good solution. My complaints of the EUB are really just that it isn't a double bass. Even with its matching geometry and decent sound, it doesn't compare to the feeling off playing the real double bass.
     
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  13. Barcza

    Barcza

    May 1, 2005
    Budapest
    Hou prefer the Yamahiko on the acoustic bass now?
     
  14. Maple

    Maple Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2016
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Oh no, sorry - I just read my earlier post. My re-counting of events was incorrect, I didn't have the K4 on my double bass. I love the Yamahiko pickups - you can read about that in the yamahiko thread. I can't directly compare the two on the double bass.
     
  15. Barcza

    Barcza

    May 1, 2005
    Budapest
    Thank you all for sharing experiences!
    Another question, anybody could compare the K1 with Full Circle, BP-100, Ehrlund? (I have experiences with these...)
     
  16. Barcza

    Barcza

    May 1, 2005
    Budapest
    I see you use Full Circle too, could you explain the differences compared with the K1 in sound, output and feedback resistance?
     
  17. Emoody

    Emoody Supporting Member

    Jun 3, 2012
    Switzerland
    Yes. I tried the Full Circle too (and many others ;)), it has a little more output compared to K1, but the main difference is another sound character, hard to describe. In addition, it certainly differ from one bass to another.
    Sorry, this statement doesn't help much to make a choice :cool:.
     
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  18. The K1 will sound different on the same instrument depending of the location on the bridge, so that kind of comparison is almost impossible to do.
    That said, on my bass, and where it was installed, the tone is very mids-forward.
    I don't use it at the moment.
     
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