Anyone's band using a JamHub for rehearsals?

[Munjibunga]

If you only want opinions that agree with yours, there is really no need to start a thread.

I'm not saying he's right, but you ask for opinions and then start arguing when someone disagrees.

So I'm not allowed to disagree with other posters based on my experience? Seriously, your comment is a bit doofus.

 

[Stewie26]

I did a quick on the fly mix and recorded a few songs on the JamHub's SD card and it came out sounding great. .

Does anyone know what format it records in? MP3 or WAV?

 

[hotrodjohn]

Works great for what it is designed for. We even used it for remote rehearsal with out of town guitar player by hooking up JamLink to it.

 

[Bass Viking]

So I'm not allowed to disagree with other posters based on my experience? Seriously, your comment is a bit doofus.

Not to mention "don't use that man, the sound totally sucks." is a very lame answer and of no help.

 

[Lync]

We used the JamHub TourBus for the first time at rehearsal last night and I'm in love. Great little product! I did a quick on the fly mix and recorded a few songs on the JamHub's SD card and it came out sounding great. Easily good enough to use as a demo as needed and plenty good enough to capture ideas.

I ran my bass through my GK MB800 and out the DI out into the JamHub. The guitar player had a direct recording XLR out on his amp head as well and ran that into the JamHub. For drums, we put a mic between the hi hat and snare and another one on the kick. Then setup 4 vocal mics and they picked up the rest of the drums along with the vocals. I put a splash of reverb on the vocals. Sounded great in the headphones.

When playing with acoustic drums with the JamHub, good headphones are key it seems. I am using the Vic Firth Sound Isolating headphones and the lead singer is using the Extreme Sound EX-29 isolation headphones. Both of those worked well last night. The drummer and guitar player had some non sound isolating headphones and they struggled a bit getting a good in ear mix. They are both planning on upgrading their headphones at this point.

Another great part is with everyone having vocal mics and vocal mics is that we can talk to each during the song. Call changes, direct solos, call breaks, etc. Also listening to practice like its a CD in headphones, you can catch every missed note, chord, harmony, rhythm, etc. and fix them on the spot. Not to mention everyone can listen back to clear recordings of the rehearsal right after the song ends or the next day to find trouble spots and improve them. Very cool.

I was wondering about acoustic drums and also the headphones. Any experience with the cans jamhub sells?

 

[Bass Viking]

We used the JamHub TourBus for the first time at rehearsal last night and I'm in love. Great little product! I did a quick on the fly mix and recorded a few songs on the JamHub's SD card and it came out sounding great. Easily good enough to use as a demo as needed and plenty good enough to capture ideas.

I ran my bass through my GK MB800 and out the DI out into the JamHub. The guitar player had a direct recording XLR out on his amp head as well and ran that into the JamHub. For drums, we put a mic between the hi hat and snare and another one on the kick. Then setup 4 vocal mics and they picked up the rest of the drums along with the vocals. I put a splash of reverb on the vocals. Sounded great in the headphones.

When playing with acoustic drums with the JamHub, good headphones are key it seems. I am using the Vic Firth Sound Isolating headphones and the lead singer is using the Extreme Sound EX-29 isolation headphones. Both of those worked well last night. The drummer and guitar player had some non sound isolating headphones and they struggled a bit getting a good in ear mix. They are both planning on upgrading their headphones at this point.

Another great part is with everyone having vocal mics and vocal mics is that we can talk to each during the song. Call changes, direct solos, call breaks, etc. Also listening to practice like its a CD in headphones, you can catch every missed note, chord, harmony, rhythm, etc. and fix them on the spot. Not to mention everyone can listen back to clear recordings of the rehearsal right after the song ends or the next day to find trouble spots and improve them. Very cool.

I agree! At some point, you may want to try talking your drummer into buying an electronic kit (good luck with that!). That's what my friend has and it means we don't have to find/rent a practice space where noise isn't an issue.

 

[RocketMensch]

I own a JamHub and I absolutely love it! We have an electric drum kit and I run into my VTbass into my own channel. I like the mic'd cab simulation from the VTbass. It's great, everyone can hear one another without deafening volumes and you get to adjust how much of the other band members you want to hear. Provides a nice platform to record ideas and jams whether that's on the JamHub itself or going out one of the channels into a computer. I think everyone should try a headphone jam at least once in their life. It's feels kinda like listening to music on your iPod except it's you making the music in real time.

 

[Jarrett]

Yeah,I'm actually really looking forward to practices now since we started using this thing. Two rehearsals in, the band is getting much better. We record the songs during practice, I put them on a shared server and we listen to them throughout the week between practices and then come back in with ideas on how to make them better at the next rehearsal. It's amazing how productive this thing is.

My only downside at this point is I can't find headphones that block out the sound of the acoustic drums AND put enough low end into the headphones so I can hear my bass clearly in the mix. When I play the recordings back afterward on other systems, there is plenty of bass, just not in my headphones at the time of recording.

 

[Dreamsinger]

I had a Green Room. I really liked it but guitarists who insist on playing their boutique tube amps and drummers who absolutely won't play E-drums (I bought a nice set of Rolands) are a buzzkill. I invested in a set of fitted IEMs from Dream Earz. I especially like the idea of using a Jamhub in place of wedge monitors for performing; everybody gets their own mix, the FOH sound isn't boogered up by wedges and the stage volume is reduced. The problem is getting the band to buy into using it. I'm working on cobbling up a self contained monitor rig using an ART PowerMixIII on my pedalboard and a PZM mic.

 

[TonyP-]

I had a Green Room. I really liked it but guitarists who insist on playing their boutique tube amps and drummers who absolutely won't play E-drums (I bought a nice set of Rolands) are a buzzkill. I invested in a set of fitted IEMs from Dream Earz. I especially like the idea of using a Jamhub in place of wedge monitors for performing; everybody gets their own mix, the FOH sound isn't boogered up by wedges and the stage volume is reduced. The problem is getting the band to buy into using it. I'm working on cobbling up a self contained monitor rig using an ART PowerMixIII on my pedalboard and a PZM mic.

There is a way for the picky guitarist to get there sound (minus the cab).

I use the Radial JDX and had a load box with mutiple ohm loads capability.
Radial designed that to basically to get the tone of a mixed 412.

Drums can be a little tougher.
However its just about rehearsing and getting the music down...The best ones can do the electric kit with minimum complaining. I find some of the ones who cannot do it are either afraid or need a crutch to a slight degree (sorry drummers but that is how I'm calling it).

 

[Dreamsinger]

There is a way for the picky guitarist to get there sound (minus the cab).

I use the Radial JDX and had a load box with mutiple ohm loads capability.
Radial designed that to basically to get the tone of a mixed 412.

Drums can be a little tougher.
However its just about rehearsing and getting the music down...The best ones can do the electric kit with minimum complaining. I find some of the ones who cannot do it are either afraid or need a crutch to a slight degree (sorry drummers but that is how I'm calling it).

You still have to go through the speakers, though, right? For rehearsal I'd like to get it down to being silent. Damn few tube amps have a line out and you've never heard wailing and gnashing of teeth until you've asked your guitarist to play through a POD.

 

[TonyP-]

You still have to go through the speakers, though, right? For rehearsal I'd like to get it down to being silent.

No speakers (Hence that is the reason for the "Load Box") The Load Box acts as a speaker cab.

Tube Head (speaker out, with speaker cable) -> Radial JDX (XLR out to your Jamhub) ->Speaker Cable out of Radial JDX-> "Load Box" (I suggest making one that is switchable values and with 100w - 200w resistors).

If you need the info for someone to build it for you I know someone who would for not much money.
This set up is worth its wait in gold for this type of thing.

 

[Dreamsinger]

No speakers (Hence that is the reason for the "Load Box") The Load Box acts as a speaker cab.

Tube Head (speaker out, with speaker cable) -> Radial JDX (XLR out to your Jamhub) ->Speaker Cable out of Radial JDX-> "Load Box" (I suggest making one that is switchable values and with 100w - 200w resistors).

If you need the info for someone to build it for you I know someone who would for not much money.
This set up is worth its wait in gold for this type of thing.

Thanks!! You've probably saved me months and $$ of banging my head against the wall trying to reinvent the wheel.

 

[jive1]

There is a way for the picky guitarist to get there sound (minus the cab).
I use the Radial JDX and had a load box with mutiple ohm loads capability.
Radial designed that to basically to get the tone of a mixed 412.

It may simulate speaker load, but it won't emulate the specific qualities of a speaker, especially the break up point. A 15", 12" and 10" will have different characteristics while having a similar load. All a load box does is convert the amp's energy to heat, which is not the same as driving a speaker. I have two of the same amp with different speakers, one with a British Voicing and another with an American voicing that produce totally different sounds, especially when breaking up. I've used various ways of going ampless on recordings and gigs with decent results, but they still don't sound as good as micing up my favorite guitar amp.

 

[Dreamsinger]

It may simulate speaker load, but it won't emulate the specific qualities of a speaker, especially the break up point. A 15", 12" and 10" will have different characteristics while having a similar load. All a load box does is convert the amp's energy to heat, which is not the same as driving a speaker. I have two of the same amp with different speakers, one with a British Voicing and another with an American voicing that produce totally different sounds, especially when breaking up. I've used various ways of going ampless on recordings and gigs with decent results, but they still don't sound as good as micing up my favorite guitar amp.

This is kind of where one's audiophile sensitivities need to submit to the more pragmatic issues. After 45+ years I have yet to see a guitarist who isn't convinced that he doesn't have to turn it up to get it to sound right. The result is that everybody else has to turn up just to be able to hear themselves plus in a small rehearsal room it really sounds like crap. Sure, I LOVE the sound of my guitarist's DrZ but I'm betting that whatever is lost by not going through speakers will more than made up for by a clearer mix which I'm thinking will make rehearsal that much more effective.

 

[TonyP-]

It may simulate speaker load, but it won't emulate the specific qualities of a speaker, especially the break up point. A 15", 12" and 10" will have different characteristics while having a similar load. All a load box does is convert the amp's energy to heat, which is not the same as driving a speaker. I have two of the same amp with different speakers, one with a British Voicing and another with an American voicing that produce totally different sounds, especially when breaking up. I've used various ways of going ampless on recordings and gigs with decent results, but they still don't sound as good as micing up my favorite guitar amp.

Understood
BUT
The whole point of the JDX is sending the sound of your head before it even gets to the cab to the house ect...
So for that type of DI what your using for a cab for lack of a better term is irrelavant.
There is some logic built into the DI to take on the carchteristics of a 412.

 

[TonyP-]

Also just for clairification purposes

You have to use a speaker load of some kind to use the JDX.

Either a real speaker or a load.

The whole purpose of using a load box is for these type of applications (with the JDX)
Quite use of a tube head for either recording or rehearsing.

 

[Garret Graves]

Looks great! Didn't know about this. One potential downfall for gearheads is- you get a new amp (or especially cab) and want to let it rip, to hear it in the mix with the band- but now you are a band of Jamhub quiet jammers. D'OH!!!!!

 

[TonyP-]

I love it (for the most part)
You will get tighter faster rehersing this way

 

[Dreamsinger]

Looks great! Didn't know about this. One potential downfall for gearheads is- you get a new amp (or especially cab) and want to let it rip, to hear it in the mix with the band- but now you are a band of Jamhub quiet jammers. D'OH!!!!!

The important part to remember is that you are a *band* not a solo wanker.