I am not going to generalize and say that all hardcore bassists are not true bassists, because there are probably several hardcore bassists who are excellent! I was only speaking from personal experience with local hardcore 'bands' who wanted a dude to just stand there and look stupid playing only one note. I didn't mean to offend anyone who plays this genre, as it is a respectable form of music.
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Are hardcore bassists true bassists?
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oh, i didn't have my metal flo-chart with my at the time i posted - damn!
Trust me, I dislike the never ending metal genres aswell. But the hardcore that I know and that the bands in my area play is nothing like BTBAM. It just seems so wrong to group them in with some of the crap that's in hardcore.
This would assume that grindcore is then not even music, just sound. Short bursts of sound. However, I can't say its any worse than Celine Dion or Creed.
Depends on the band. Listen to Dick Lövgren of Meshuggah, Sean Malone of Cynic or Stephan Fimmers of Necrophagist. All play some really interesting lines. Alex Webster of Cannibal Corpse plays some really interesting lines.
I've found myself to be rejuvenated by some of these bands. The bass isn't rinse and repeat, not that's anything wrong with that. I like a good blues line as much as the other guy but I find some of the new technical players insanely good..
Almost forgot Brandon Giffin of The Faceless. Young but talented.
I've found myself to be rejuvenated by some of these bands. The bass isn't rinse and repeat, not that's anything wrong with that. I like a good blues line as much as the other guy but I find some of the new technical players insanely good..
Almost forgot Brandon Giffin of The Faceless. Young but talented.
"^Agreed. Only playing one note for the ENTIRE FREAKING SONG is NOT A TRUE BASS PLAYER."
I have to disagree. There are plenty of songs out there with only one note. The first that comes to mind is 'tomorrow never knows' by the beatles. It may be a boring song to play but a song none the less.
I have to disagree. There are plenty of songs out there with only one note. The first that comes to mind is 'tomorrow never knows' by the beatles. It may be a boring song to play but a song none the less.
if you pick up and instrument and play it, even ineptly, you are playing that instrument and are therefore a *blank* player. Now the quality of the player is another story...
dan briggs of between the buried and me is the best bass player ive heard by far.
dustin davidson of august burns red
dustin davidson of august burns red
Yes the usual "IMO" and "To each his own" statements are applicable here, but I think hardcore music in GENERAL needs to try and step it up a notch....punk music had more diversity and technique than this music does, and punk was TRYING to oversimplify and cut down everything. I've never actually heard a "hardxcore" band that I have liked, and that's having listened to MANY of them at the advice of people I've known from school or from other bands.
Just for reference, I do happen to be a fan of REAL punk music (i.e. - The Clash, Sex Pistols, Ramones, Black Flag, EARLY Green Day, etc.).
Just for reference, I do happen to be a fan of REAL punk music (i.e. - The Clash, Sex Pistols, Ramones, Black Flag, EARLY Green Day, etc.).
Most of the bands you listed are technical death metal. not even close to the same genre as hardcore. all really good bassists though
and to the op, yes, hardcore bassists are bassists, some of them suck, and some of them are way better than you or me. it's the same in any genre. don't hate on them because it's not your style of music. i don't listen to it, but i would never bash them because they don't play what i like.
Black Flag is a hardcore band. In fact they are one of the earlier hardcore bands. Ironic?
i think that if the music u listen to only has one note being played, its bad. the guy/girl is still a bassist just not necessarily a good one. but sometimes, its what the song calls for. the music i listen to, the bass plays the chugging, but also follows the guitar sometimes and sometimes goes of drums it depends on what the song calls for
For f*cks sake...listen to any Bad Brains record and try telling me that Darryl Jenifer isn't a "real" bass player!
No matter if the bassist plays 1 note or does 2,5,1 walking lines then does an awesome solo in thumb position, if the bassist supports what that song requires (whethers its all attitude or a melodic bass line) he/she is a real bassist.
Its about supporting the song and band 1st.
Its about supporting the song and band 1st.
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