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Are you a loop/sampling artist/bassist?

way back in the day, i got consumed with left/right stereo panning effects to the point i carried a complete stereo amp and left/right speakers(with subwoofer) to give the audience a knock down out of their mind spacial effect. stereo effects can become quite complicated and very impressive at very high volumes.

i accidentally found a side obsession in looping/sampling recorders. although in it's infancy back then it added another dimension to my sound and enabled me to do more of the sounds myself. less reliant on others that had their own sounds(not always my taste).

i was strict with myself in that i wanted to create and trigger the sounds/effect with a bass. the usual midi basses were bought and sold off due to their inherent problems(the new syb-300 looks promising though). i stayed away from keyboards and other sample triggering devices as best i could.

eventually i give that route up due to tech not being able to do what i wanted with a bass or recreate the sounds in my head and switched to just effect box pedals. after many years with that too i was let down(maybe i am too picky).


i sold off all my pedals, put my basses in their cases and vowed not to play or even think about them for 5 years or at least until effects where made that could satisfy the sounds i wanted to make. fast forward to just recently. i have researched effects pedals to find that a lot has come out, refinements yes, but not a lot of innovation of new stuff.

i am going to turn my attention to loopers/samplers again and wait for pedals to catch up to keyboard synths/midi control. seems like we are close to a break though.


this guy is talented and did some kool stuff putting it together. not ground breaking but enjoyable.






other than basic bass track looping, do any of you do looping/sampling as a music form and what do you use?

feel free to post related youtube vids/sound bytes, but lets stay away from the whole noise/self oscillating/non-music types as those deserve their own thread.
 
I used to do live looping solo gigs with a bass, drums, guitar and a vocal mic plugged into a Boss RC-50. But I didn't use much in the way of effects. Just basic clean and dirty settings and a couple of delays via a couple of multi fx boxes.

It ended up being not fun for me to be the only one on stage responsible for everything. Plus I was switching instruments at least twice during each song. Which was a pain.
So nowdays I just do regular bass gigs with a band and use the looping rig for songwriting and occasional youtube videos with a vocalist. That way I'm not tied to real-time building of layers of sound.

I like some of what that guy was doing, combining samples and DJ stuff with live playing and looping.

In the end I think, basses work best sounding like basses, and keyboards like keyboards, guitars like guitars, etc.
 
Attended a master class with Matt Garrison a year ago and he was doing some pretty amazing things with Mac-based signal processing.
That's where I'd start. Last I heard he was working on a complete music venue in NYC and there was a bunch of press on what he was doing.
Bass-triggered MIDI stuff is always going to be a challenge compared to guitar, for example, because they get hundreds of samples a second, and we get somewhere between 30 and 40 on the lower strings...
 
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In the end I think, basses work best sounding like basses, and keyboards like keyboards, guitars like guitars, etc.



young man go to your room, think about what you just said and "no soup for you" until your attitude changes.... ok, just kidding...but we are in the sound manipulation forum...



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