I had to reply because about a month or two ago, the algorithm has thrown this at me after some refining.
Very similar to one of your images and I think this shows the limitations of this tech quite well.
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) generated music
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Very similar to one of your images and I think this shows the limitations of this tech quite well.
AI generated music will be the next thing and also another way of making music, then something else will come along, it always does. Electric instruments were worried over as a threat to acoustic instruments, then synthesizers were going to replace all other instruments, then auto tune and corporate manufactured music was.... Well, you get the picture. I'm sure AI generated music will be just the thing for churning out even more cost effective pop, doing TV show and movie soundtracks and a host of other things, but the stage show, or the arena concerts might be a tough ask.
Technology keeps advancing, but people are infinitely variable and for some reason we still cling to some of the old. Folk, traditional, baroque, classical, opera, blues, jazz, country (and western), rock and roll, rock, prog, punk, metal, soul, funk, techno hip hop and so on still exist and people love to see real people sing, play, emote and interact. Humans have lived and played music since they formed tribes and communities and probably always will.
Technology keeps advancing, but people are infinitely variable and for some reason we still cling to some of the old. Folk, traditional, baroque, classical, opera, blues, jazz, country (and western), rock and roll, rock, prog, punk, metal, soul, funk, techno hip hop and so on still exist and people love to see real people sing, play, emote and interact. Humans have lived and played music since they formed tribes and communities and probably always will.
I don't care--as long as there is an app to digitally fire the AI drummer.
But yes--I see the future being your computer generating a backing band for you to play along/record with, and songwriting being a plugin for that. Each musician will have an avatar that can be edited, so you can crank the diva knob to 11. The deluxe version will include deep fake representations of famous musicians. All accessed via VR headset. From there it will be a short hop to deploying the band at a venue via hologram. Or just skip the venue and rock out at home in the Metaverse.
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But yes--I see the future being your computer generating a backing band for you to play along/record with, and songwriting being a plugin for that. Each musician will have an avatar that can be edited, so you can crank the diva knob to 11. The deluxe version will include deep fake representations of famous musicians. All accessed via VR headset. From there it will be a short hop to deploying the band at a venue via hologram. Or just skip the venue and rock out at home in the Metaverse.
Blurred lines.
I know which side my bread is buttered on. I'm wired that way
This is just another cut-up scenario. Old hat, new head. It's good to have choices. Good music is a blessing, no matter where it comes from. One thing's certain: there's no AI like the musical mind. The fantasy is real
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That artwork is killer (at least to my eye
) and yes you are paraphrasing me correctly…I will call you next week, mostly slammed until Tuesday. Miss you my friend.
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I see you point and cannot argue that.
My question is does it quantify the same monetarily to the artist? Or to the platforms that share it?
I don’t mean that in a facetious way but more food for thought.
Well, I think it has been a "disruption", not an evolution. Consumers spend a certain amount of money, and get entertainment in return. But behind the scenes, the whole infrastructure has changed. And I do not see much benefit for us on the performing end of things...
An interesting legal challenge SHOULD be that all AI is inherently, by definition derivative work.
It is a cool piece of art. But I swear I looked and looked…even got a magnifying glass…and for life of me it I couldn’t see a bass player or anything related to bass.
Nice image, and an even better catch, I always assumed there might be something like that happening, given a finite library of imagery to draw on. This is the first time I've seen that confirmed.
The style is also in some ways singular, as if the same mind were judging the results at the time of programming the original system.
They're a very good judge, and people know how to select the best of its output well, but a view of twenty artistic book covers will usually show an astounding variation even though twenty minds or less contributed to the collection.
That's not what's happening here.
A huge amount of I.P. is being selected by humans for the purpose of ingestion, analysis, and reverse engineering, of a product they are manufacturing for profit.
It's a massively complex legal minefield, and if the music publishers haven't figured this out, they're asleep at the wheel.
No, it sounds like all the terrible dead end local bands in 1992, that desperately wanted to be Nirvana.
Which, in a word, sums up the essence of AI. Yes it's amazing. But like all new hammers it's going to be overdone to death
I think ^^^that is the key to any of the autonomous/self-generating/AI "creative" [sic] arts applications producing content that is compelling and engaging, rather than simply a curiosity: It still requires some aesthetic decision-making, both in terms of selecting what materials the app will use as its fodder, as well as culling the output to identify/filter the most rewarding product from the least rewarding. Right now we still require a human with vision to perform those two curating tasks.
Coincidentally, I just learned about this "band" (scare-quotes intentional) this week:
Once you've demonstrated that audiences will pay to see robots perform, it's only a slightly more complex programming task to have the sounds they produce actually come from the instruments they're holding...and then it is a (comparitively) trivial task to have the material they perform come from one of these AI creation apps rather than having to have human programmers painstakingly enter the music as gesture code.
It's a weird new world all right...
AI-generated music is way further along than you might suspect. For example, there was an AI project last year that set out to complete Beethoven's last symphony. He died before completing Number Ten. Actually, it was fairly incomplete, but the AI project picked up where he stopped and the results are amazing.
Read about it: Invalid Link Removed
Hear the Tenth Symphony played by the Beethoven Orchestra of Bonn.
Read about it: Invalid Link Removed
Hear the Tenth Symphony played by the Beethoven Orchestra of Bonn.
