Double Bass B Minor Bottesini concerto fingerings

[shwashwa]

can some people give me feedback as to where they finger the first phrase of the first movement? thanks.

 

[jazzbassnerd]

All on the G String:

E F# G# A B C B A E

2 1 3 1 2 3 2 1 2

Do you need further? I hope this helps.

edit : sorry the numbers don't come out under the notes but I'm sure you get it

 

[PaulCannon]

I do it this way:

1 3 (-) + 1 2 3 2 1 (-) 1

 

[jazzbassnerd]

I do it this way:

1 3 (-) + 1 2 3 2 1 (-) 1

I don't disagree with that way, but I would say that at the end you should shift to 2 because then the turn in all in position. Fingering is all a matter of preference though.

Oh wait. Do you mean you play the first E on the D string and do it all in thumb position? Then you would still use one.

So interesting to see how everyone fingers things.

 

[PaulCannon]

No, you just use your thumb on the D# for the turn. It's all on the G-string.

 

[shwashwa]

thanks guys. i just play the whole thing starting in thumb position starting on the d string, so that way, in the figure after the turn, on beat 4 of the 3rd measure, where there's a d and a in a triplet slured under one bow, i can play them both on the d string, using the harmonic d to get me time to shift down to the a under one bow stroke. i find it hard to slur 4th's with a string crossing, so i play it on one string. i know there is an interval of a 4th between the a and e in the first figure, but i have them marked as having a bow change there, so i dont mind doing a string crossing on that one. does that make sense? any thoughts?

 

[Justin K-ski]

If i have my info corret that's the way Edgar Meyer plays it.

Paul, is that how he did it in masterclass?

IMO, as long as you can get a nice even tone in thumb pos, play stuff across the sting as much as you can.

 

[Johnny L]

I want to remember that Edgar played that line on the G string in concert too...lots of shifting...but it's been enough months I don't really know for sure.

 

[Anon2962]

All on the G String:

E F# G# A B C B A E

2 1 3 1 2 3 2 1 2

Ditto

 

[kraid]

I play the beginning passage up the G string as it sounds the best that way. It may be easier starting on the D string but I take it up and down from that A to the E on the G string. For most of the rest of the piece I stay in thumb position rather than shifting down.

 

[mcnaire2004]

On the G

E,F#,G#,A,B,C,B,A,E
1, 4, +, ,1,2,3,2,1,2


As far as G and D strings to start. My teacher suggest that some bassist (Hal Robinson) plays the begining frazes on both the G and D to change the color so it doesn't sound to exact to what you just played.

 

[jdapodaca]

Since we're talking about the first phrase, what bowings do yall use for this phrase? I've seen people start up, start down, break the F# and G#, slur the F# and G#, break the next three notes, or slur those notes. I think this is because different editions actually have different phrasing markings in them. So, just curious as to what yall do.

 

[mcnaire2004]

Since we're talking about the first phrase, what bowings do yall use for this phrase? I've seen people start up, start down, break the F# and G#, slur the F# and G#, break the next three notes, or slur those notes. I think this is because different editions actually have different phrasing markings in them. So, just curious as to what yall do.

I start up bow and follow the slurs.

 

[jdapodaca]

I start up bow and follow the slurs.

Which edition do you have? Which notes are slurred, the F# and G#, or the A B and C? Do you end down or up on the E at the end of this first phrase?

 

[mcnaire2004]

Which edition do you have? Which notes are slurred, the F# and G#, or the A B and C? Do you end down or up on the E at the end of this first phrase?

I have two editioins. I mainly use the Buccalara (I'll see the spelling when I get home after school). I also have the music minus one edition but I just ordered it for the Allegro di concerto.

The opening Es are slured then the A,B,C are sluredthen then the B and A are slured.