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b-string on a sadowsky

hello,

sorry if this has been discussed before.

i would like to know what you guys think about the b-strings on sadowsky basses. i own an ultra vintage ash/morado and a lakland usa joe osborne and - using the same tapered strings - find the b-string on the lakland better than on the sadowsky. nothing one would ever hear in the mix but there is a difference (maybe because of the 35"-scale of the lakland?).

any idea how to improve on that (ok i know how to string correctly)?

thanks!

sandmann

that's funny,

of all the laklands 5'ers i've played, i've much preferred the B on my sadowsky. my strings' action is usually very low, and yet, i've found the sadowsky's that much more taut and punchy.

course, it helps when you have the guys at the sadowsky shop at your disposal. ;)

but goes without saying that a proper setup does wonders on most any instrument. so without really knowing the details of how your basses are setup, its kinda hard to make a judgement call on our end, regardless of our experiences. cause again, you'll get a whole mess of opinions.

FWIW, in the realm of basses w/ a 34" scale, sadowsky's are one of my favs.
 
I remember that with the Wenge-neck MTD535 I had, I had to baby that string with my attack because the open bstring was so powerful that it could literally drown out an ensemble. Like hitting the low b on a steinway with a hammer if you will. IMHO/IME this is NOT a good thing. Cool: yes. Practical: not really.
 
Sadowskys have amazing Bs as long as you use Sadowsky or Labella strings.

My lakland B with DR hi beams sounds a bit "off" to me when played solo, but sits really well with a full band. The high mid edgyness keeps notes well defined. Its good to about the 7th or 8th fret. The Sadowsky plays clean past the 12th. I'd try Sadowsky strings on the lakland, but I think the standard guage would be too stiff on a 35" scale, and he only offers standard guage in extra-long. I hated the lakland strings just like I hate all GHS strings.

IMO the Sadowsky B is better, even though I prefer my 55-94 overall. But setup and strings are KEY.

Other basses I've had with great Bs are Zon, Modulus, and the Warwick SSII ... so I don't think scale has much to do with the quality of how a B string responds. The warwick really was among the best, and I truly disliked the B on a 35" scale MTD.
 
Well, at least on the one I got from you, the diff is nowhere near what it was on my Roscoe. My LG-3005 had such an intense B I actually had to play around its power, which actually became kind of a hassle (tho initially, it was so impressive I was having fun with it :)).

I really don't get that from this one. If this B string has a tendency to be a bit too strong, maybe I'm just having a little better luck with it... I really don't notice it. Seems very nice to me.

+1... it's a great B string... but VERY different from the J's... which was my main point... closer to the 'piano' type B string tone to my ear... which is of course, not a bad thing at all... just different. I think it has much more to do with those big powerful soapbar pickups than anything else. I guess that's why Roger calls it a 'Modern'!
 
Sadowskys have amazing Bs as long as you use Sadowsky or Labella strings.

My lakland B with DR hi beams sounds a bit "off" to me when played solo, but sits really well with a full band. The high mid edgyness keeps notes well defined. Its good to about the 7th or 8th fret. The Sadowsky plays clean past the 12th. I'd try Sadowsky strings on the lakland, but I think the standard guage would be too stiff on a 35" scale, and he only offers standard guage in extra-long. I hated the lakland strings just like I hate all GHS strings.

IMO the Sadowsky B is better, even though I prefer my 55-94 overall. But setup and strings are KEY.

Other basses I've had with great Bs are Zon, Modulus, and the Warwick SSII ... so I don't think scale has much to do with the quality of how a B string responds. The warwick really was among the best, and I truly disliked the B on a 35" scale MTD.

+1

strings themselves can make a huge diff in feel depending on the bass. some strings are great, some arent. some strings seem better suited for certain basses.

FYI, i was using sadowsky nickel strings on my sads, and i'm pretty sure the laklands had the lakland strings, considering it was at a dealer shop.
 
+1

strings themselves can make a huge diff in feel depending on the bass. some strings are great, some arent. some strings seem better suited for certain basses.

FYI, i was using sadowsky nickel strings on my sads, and i'm pretty sure the laklands had the lakland strings, considering it was at a dealer shop.
Yeah, and while I do think the Lakland strings are nice, IMHO, the Sadowsky strings are nicer, as are DR and MTD.
 
I remember that with the Wenge-neck MTD535 I had, I had to baby that string with my attack because the open bstring was so powerful that it could literally drown out an ensemble. Like hitting the low b on a steinway with a hammer if you will. IMHO/IME this is NOT a good thing. Cool: yes. Practical: not really.
This is part of the reason I sold my Roscoe... initially, I loved that hyper powerful B string, but eventually, it became an "issue" musically. I'm much happier to play the basses I have now, which are MUCH more "even tempered" from top to bottom.
 
Sadowskys have amazing Bs as long as you use Sadowsky or Labella strings.

My lakland B with DR hi beams sounds a bit "off"...
Try the DR Longnecks! Seriously... I really think the taper on the B and the hex core are really helpful in supporting a great focused B on a 34" scale bass design with typical reinforced wood necks like these are.
 
In the past 5 years, I have owned a couple Sadowskys (Modern fretted and fretless and Single Coil Jazz), a Modulus Q and a Dingwall. The Modulus and Dingwall are considered by many to have great "B" strings and I agree. I really enjoyed my time with those basses. They are fantastic instruments. The Sadowsky "B" is every bit as good as the Modulus and Dingwall. It sits well in the mix and is not overpowering - it's simply an extension of the musical scale. It doesn't get lost or call attention to itself. It's just musical.

I still own the Sadowskys. :)
 
hello,

sorry if this has been discussed before.

i would like to know what you guys think about the b-strings on sadowsky basses. i own an ultra vintage ash/morado and a lakland usa joe osborne and - using the same tapered strings - find the b-string on the lakland better than on the sadowsky. nothing one would ever hear in the mix but there is a difference (maybe because of the 35"-scale of the lakland?).

any idea how to improve on that (ok i know how to string correctly)?

thanks!

I am skeptical when the word better is used between brands...and when 34 and 35 inch scales are compared too because a good repairman can find stuff to tweak which can change an opinion. In short, B's are like catwalk models sometimes in that an opinion from the stage may be heard and judged differently from the audience. The mix...is subject to the usual opinion stuff too...but how can one really evaluate a bass or the tone of a B between brands using the word "better" as the scientific mark? The tuner is a place I'd look to evaluate first, because they can affect the sound. Listen to the B's on tape and live...from the cheap seats, then listen again...just to temper the judgement. Look at each tuner, are they the same type?
 
Try the DR Longnecks! Seriously... I really think the taper on the B and the hex core are really helpful in supporting a great focused B on a 34" scale bass design with typical reinforced wood necks like these are.

I have previously when I was trying to get the MTD to "work" for me ... I thought it was very similar to a regular hi-beam. Maybe I'll give one another shot. I actually lost that string in my house somehow :(
 
I have previously when I was trying to get the MTD to "work" for me ... I thought it was very similar to a regular hi-beam. Maybe I'll give one another shot. I actually lost that string in my house somehow :(
Nope. The HiBeam is a fairly unique animal with that round core.