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Bad habits for bassists?

Actually, you don't have to be as good as Alex and Geddy to make it work for you. Whatever you find comfortable to do is how you do it. It's all good! ;)

I'd be the last one to tell someone else how to play; I don't want to be the Technique Police. It's not all good and the only reason I argue this point at all is that I'd hate to see some beginning player look at Geddy Lee and think that if it's good enough for Geddy, it's good enough for him. People that play well, but have bad technique, play well in spite of bad technique, not because of it.

It's really just a matter of physics. If your thumb is behind the neck you have a longer reach. If you have a longer reach, you don't have to shift as far or as often. Less shifting leads to a smoother sound. Less shifting allows you to play faster with less effort. This is not to say that there is NEVER a reason to wrap your thumb, but for the vast majority of situations, the thumb behind the neck is preferable.

If you are as gifted as Geddy Lee, immune from the laws of physics, or just plain don't care, then wrap your thumb with abandon!
 
Bass plyers have the highest incidence of repetitive motion injury than any other instrument. Especially on upright bass.
Any contortion, or unnessicary flexation of any of your bodys engromomics can over time come back to "bite" you.
The problems that may occur can impact more than just your ability to play bass.

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good luck.
Rudi Weeks
 

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i think wrapping your thumb around the neck can be totally fine, but it depends on the context. if you're pedaling a low F for 32 bars, it's kinda silly to have the same hand posture as when you are blowing over changes... also, hand posture can affect the sound/phrasing...

it's only a bad habit if what you are playing at the given moment would be better served by another technique. maybe that is the definition of a 'bad bass habit'?

john

Ding ding ding!

There are times where it's better there are times when it isn't. I like to change the positions of my hands depending on the part I'm playing.
 
A few bad habits:
- plucking too hard with your plucking hand. use a gentle touch.
- playing through the pain. if something hurts then you need to stop.

These were the only ones on your list that I don't agree with. I play very aggressively with my plucking hand to get a gritty tone that suits the bass I play (rick 4003) and the band i'm in. And sometimes playing through the pain is bad, but I find that if its just pain from playing fast or for a long time and I just play through it, It builds my stamina and I can play faster and longer.
 
These were the only ones on your list that I don't agree with. I play very aggressively with my plucking hand to get a gritty tone that suits the bass I play (rick 4003) and the band i'm in. And sometimes playing through the pain is bad, but I find that if its just pain from playing fast or for a long time and I just play through it, It builds my stamina and I can play faster and longer.

That's the thing - playing fast or playing for a long time won't hurt with proper technique. I can play some really demanding basslines for 4 hours straight (the length of most the gigs I was playing last year) and not have any sort of muscle strain, tightness, or fatigue.

I also realize that playing aggressively and digging in can be used to gain a certain tone, but it's not something you should do all the time. It will wear out your tendons, and it is considered bad technique. There's no other way around it.
 
Being too much on Talkbass... going to sleep now...

yeah, this instead of practicing! very very bad!

being on time for practice....hahahaha the bass player is always a little wacky! you have to keep up the tradition....

juuuuust kidding

but the bassist is always out there, as I am , as you should be! bad habit to be just normal and standing next to your amp like a stone....lolz

big al
 
I suspect that you actually intended for this thread to go in the "Technique" forum, yes? Since it's not essentially about bass players, but about bass playing... :hmm:

That said, yes. Wrapping the thumb of one's fretting hand around the top edge of the fretboard or fingerboard is one of them. You'll see that many self-taught rock, pop & blues guitarists tend to employ this lazy, shortcut approach. It's bad enough when they do it. It's even worse when bassists do it. :scowl:

The thumb of the fretting hand should always be planted firmly on the back of the neck. Preferably in the middle of the neck. Always... :eyebrow:

MM

I've never understood how anyone can actually play anything with their hand in the "thumb-over" position. When I try to do it (just for the sake of curiosity), it feels like I'm playing a baseball bat. The hand loses all flexibility and doesn't move up and down the neck freely. And yet, there are a number of good players who do it.

That being said, I'm the evil anti-thumb - I try to keep my thumb out of the picture entirely (often not even touching the neck, other times working only as a pivot point). Same for the picking hand - if I'm not actually picking with my thumb (rare), then it's left floating.

Locking thumbs into any position (left or right hand) steals a lot of my flexibility and speed.
 

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