I need to find ones that don't hurt, last time I used one of the two brands I have, it hurt my ear from the size of it and how far I needed to put it in to be effective, and it didn't seem right to have to do that. I may need to find smaller ones.
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Band-mates won't dial it down...................
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Well..............another gig. Another LOUD gig! Drummer and guitarist #2 just don't get it.
I was also speaking to the sound guy and I was just confused. He kept saying I was too loud. I used my GK MB200 into an 8ohm Peavey 12 cab so not even pushing 200w. Volume was at 9 o'clock. He showed me the slider on the mixer and kept saying he shouldn't need to have me at unity to be in FOH!!!! Said I should be fully present in FOH at much less than unity. Mixer was an A&H digital mixer. Said if he has to push me to unity, he gets a clipping signal. Uhhhh.....what does that have to do with my stage volume??? Shouldn't I be turning up and control volume from my bass? Anyway, I've never ever had this issue at any other venue or event. I don't play overly loud and have never been asked to turn down!!
Meanwhile...........drummer is bashing on his snare! Guitar #2 is just riffing away not even knowing his parts and adding crap that's just cluttering the songs and being loud! Sax is not really loud but plays constantly. Just a bunch of clutter! And I'm still trying to figure out how the heck am I too 'LOUD'!!
This is getting old!! I'm 65. I'm too old to be playing with amateurs and inexperienced sound people!!
I was also speaking to the sound guy and I was just confused. He kept saying I was too loud. I used my GK MB200 into an 8ohm Peavey 12 cab so not even pushing 200w. Volume was at 9 o'clock. He showed me the slider on the mixer and kept saying he shouldn't need to have me at unity to be in FOH!!!! Said I should be fully present in FOH at much less than unity. Mixer was an A&H digital mixer. Said if he has to push me to unity, he gets a clipping signal. Uhhhh.....what does that have to do with my stage volume??? Shouldn't I be turning up and control volume from my bass? Anyway, I've never ever had this issue at any other venue or event. I don't play overly loud and have never been asked to turn down!!
Meanwhile...........drummer is bashing on his snare! Guitar #2 is just riffing away not even knowing his parts and adding crap that's just cluttering the songs and being loud! Sax is not really loud but plays constantly. Just a bunch of clutter! And I'm still trying to figure out how the heck am I too 'LOUD'!!
This is getting old!! I'm 65. I'm too old to be playing with amateurs and inexperienced sound people!!
As someone who plays drums, the effect of rods is that they will hit harder. Plus you loose articulation with those things. I see them as another tone and timber but a loud drummer is a loud drummer. I gave a loud drummer brushes and he pock mark my snare head in less then an hour and he was laying on the cymbals. so hard that one flew off because I did not have the t-nut on.
Ask your drummer if he could could do a rimshot with our raising his hand no more than 3 inches. Plus points if he goes less..
Gels just control ringing.
That is why a minimal set, snare hi-hat and bass drum, can teach any drummer how to make the most of 2 drums and get really good with their foot work.
I’ve been very lucky in having played with some excellent drummers. I’m no drummer which is why I mentioned rods. I played with a guy for a while that would bring a cocktail kit when we played small bars, and he used rods and brushes a lot. On the other end of the scale I played with a guy who channeled John Bonham every time he sat down behind a kit. As important as good vocals are, IME a good drummer is even more important to the success of a band. If the drummer plays like a slinky and can’t keep time, the whole band sounds like amateur hour no matter how good the rest of the players may be.
Someone tell me of a conversation with a loud playing drummer/guitar player where they were told they play too loud and how they listened and everything was better afterwards.
Somewhere in the world I am thinking this may have happened once.
Somewhere in the world I am thinking this may have happened once.
Band I was in had a noisy drummer. BL asked him to turn it down. He did. But the quieter he got the more behind the beat he played. Sad because loud Dave was tight as the ducks proverbial.
To this day nobody knows if was a pocket masterclass, a tour de force of passive aggression or an unfortunate side effect.
I'd be leaving, politely telling them they play too loudly for my liking. Then, grab your stuff, and go. It's better to be not gigging than deaf. I have constant tinnitus from loud playing, and it was simply from not being smart. I regret it constantly.
We had our old drummer use rods once. At the end of the night it looked like he threw a box of toothpicks on the floor. He's still in the band. No longer the drummer, but a damn good singer.
