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Bass brands with bad resell value

You mean like this? Or is this a Fender with a Squier logo?

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This is my bass. It would be the last instrument (I have about a dozen of different things) I would ever sell. I have about $500 into it, with the case. I have yet to play a bass that suits me as well as this does.

When it comes to gear (mics, amps, speakers, processors, interfaces, computers, software etc.), I care about resale value. If I buy a 421 right, I'll be just fine if I want to sell. Unless it's broken, an SM57 (Mexican production) is an SM57. Instruments are different. They are not fungible. One guy might think a given bass is fantastic and another might think it's unplayable.

With instruments, I buy them to play them.


Actually I meant this type of a logo on a Squire

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Customs (except Alembic). If it was built for you, it's only valuable to you.

That is so painfully and evidently true, as I see in the TB ads. The spiel may be quite thick - spouting all of the great virtues of these customs, but they sell for a song or go back into the closet, because if they were being played, who'd ever sell their "dream" instrument?
 
I like Warwicks and I noticed that the prices of used ones are really low in France compared to the price of a brand new one. Now that the GPS serie is out, the used prices make more sense but I often see german made (pre GPS) for sale for really low prices. So at least in France, I can say that Warwicks have bad resale value.

That's useful to know, I'm after a German-made Corvette 5 fretted..
 
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I want to learn, but I wanna find the right one for me first, and maybe that's where I'm going wrong sadly.
At the end of the day I can't tell what I want.
I just know in my heart I wanna play bass, I'm just letting it slip away by trying to find the one

This is going nowhere fast and I doubt that any advise will help. One bass, and only one. Practice too much. Talking about and owning 5 and 6 string basses and being a solo artist is wastefull untill you learn to play. Just like the guitars and drums you mentioned earlier, sounds like your throwing money away. At this stage in the learning process, it does not matter what you learn on, so long as it is set up good.

Lets us know where your advertising your next sale.
 
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Well I decided to keep my 1998 warwick fna 5 string, after this talk and much consideration I feel I will take the change and keep it for a bit.
I haven't even pulled it out of the box yet to play with it before I listed it.
I plan on also keeping the broadneck thumb 6 I am getting soon as well. Hopefully I can adapt to going from 16.5 at the bridge to 20mm at the bridge.
I am sure I can find a way to make it work.
I feel I will be glad I kept it after I try it for awhile.

hopefully it'll work for you. sometimes i want things to work out that just don't, but it's always worth a shot!
 
I got lucky a while ago and got a Carvin PB5 for my ESP LTD B-206sm, which was a huuuuuge step up IMO. So yes, Carvin's probably don't resell well :roflmao:. As someone who has trouble keeping things, I have really only had quick turnarounds with Fenders. And as far as percentage, I personally only buy used instruments, so sometimes I can even flip them for profit (like 10% profit at most). The lesson is, if you're concerned about resale: don't buy new, don't buy custom, haggle haggle haggle.
 
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I have not truth be told, I happened to pick one up at guitar center once as I always liked to go up there.
The thing with me is that once my mind is set it is set and no matter the truth I end up tricking myself into something until the truth shows through and it is too late at that point.
at one point I wanted a stingray, and nothing else. I was convinced that I loved that bass, even though I hated the placement of the 4h pickup, it hurt my thumb, but it was the be all end all in my head. Two days after I bought it I traded it for my now carvin. I didn't last a day with this carvin nor did I play it very much before I wanted to sell it.
I can tell you the ones I am selling/ sold I never even took out of the packaging it was shipped in before selling them.
I tend to feel like an idiot that I change my mind right after purchase without trying anything then sell it for much less not having it for more than a day, I end up put it up on the market before it arrives because I like the look of something else more, or I really thought I wanted a 5 string, and I end up doing too much research and trying to see what everyone else likes, that then convinces me that I must have that it's how my mind works.
only to see the other side of the field when I have already bought it, and see that 4 strings are better to people.
Basses are not the only time this takes place, but I have always relied on what everyone else thinks of something to where I am so indecisive, I rarely strike gold this way, and end up wasting money and feeling awful.
If there was more than 1 guitar center anywhere less that an hour away from me I would go every day, but the one I have around here only has low end ibanez basses, and not much else as they are relatively new, I wish I could go to any other store, but I know I would end up buying something there that I would do the same thing with, I would play a few for a minute, see one I liked the look of, buy it no matter the cost, take it home and then not want it after a day of having it.
I am an unsatisfyable person.

At this point in your learning it is NOT about what bass you have. Any of the basses you bought were quite suitable to learn on and play until you figure out what you like and don't like in a bass. Play the bass you have every day for six months and then go shopping if you still want something different.
 
Yeah I was going to say the Carvin/Kiesel seems to be ones that comes up in this category.
I can't understand that...I've used a lot of Carvin equipment and found it all to be top notch in quality. I am going to have a Kiesel built for me at the end of this month. I don't plan on selling it when it's time...I plan on passing it down to my grandson. I guess he can sell it if he desires.
 
Carvin, G&L, Warmoth.

What are my 3 favorite brands?

Carvin, G&L, Warmoth.

And, oh, G&L and Warmoth are wonderful basses. They represent a fabulous deal used. Well, Warmoth can be a great bargain used if you get one that wasn't messed up in the self-finishing process.

I have my suspicions that Schecter, and Ibanez are in the low return category as well.
 
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I want to learn, but I wanna find the right one for me first, and maybe that's where I'm going wrong sadly.
At the end of the day I can't tell what I want.
I just know in my heart I wanna play bass, I'm just letting it slip away by trying to find the one
Sounds like you may be thinking that a different bass will make you a better player when really (here we go again) practice is the key to becoming better. Your LB70 is a pro level instrument that could be set up to play as sweetly as anything out there. Just chill for a while and play that Carvin. In time you'll get the opportunity to try other basses to see if there's one you like better.
 
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my yamahas and ibanezes sell very quickly.

I think anything can be sold quickly at the right price. The right price for used Yamaha and Ibanez instruments seems to be a smaller percentage of the original retail price than, say, a Fender or Gibson.

The exception would be '70s or '80s Ibanez or Yamaha instruments. Old Ibanez Artist basses seem to be increasing in value if anything.
 
If you want to buy another bass and you have the money, go for it. Buy used and you’ll not lose anything when you sell it if you decide to. If you can hit a store with a good bass selection, you can try a lot to see what you like for a lot less.
 
Carvin, G&L, Warmoth.

What are my 3 favorite brands?

Carvin, G&L, Warmoth.

And, oh, G&L and Warmoth are wonderful basses. They represent a fabulous deal used. Well, Warmoth can be a great bargain used if you get one that wasn't messed up in the self-finishing process.

I have my suspicions that Schecter, and Ibanez are in the low return category as well.

The G&L logic and head stock conspiracy is laughable. The way I see it, people just aren't familiar with the brand as much as Fender and MM. Anecdotally, I've spoken to bass players who were (in 2018 mind you) unaware it's was a partially owned Leo Fender company.

Ibanez has incredible product refresh from year to year. High output with a constantly changing catalog won't yield a high resale value. New bassist usually can get a great instrument at a great price. Vintage Ibanez commands high prices and they aren't just laying around. I'd say they are coveted instruments.

Custom made instruments never command a high resale because why should the buyer absorb the cost on a instrument that was not of their design? Unless it's a match made in heaven, it's just another middle of the pack instrument in terms of design.

Buyers vote with their wallets. There are plenty of new instruments out there I'd never buy new, despite the high quality. There aren't as many garbage instruments out there, so why should I pay a premium to help a company stay afloat?
 
I have not truth be told, I happened to pick one up at guitar center once as I always liked to go up there.
The thing with me is that once my mind is set it is set and no matter the truth I end up tricking myself into something until the truth shows through and it is too late at that point.
at one point I wanted a stingray, and nothing else. I was convinced that I loved that bass, even though I hated the placement of the 4h pickup, it hurt my thumb, but it was the be all end all in my head. Two days after I bought it I traded it for my now carvin. I didn't last a day with this carvin nor did I play it very much before I wanted to sell it.
I can tell you the ones I am selling/ sold I never even took out of the packaging it was shipped in before selling them.
I tend to feel like an idiot that I change my mind right after purchase without trying anything then sell it for much less not having it for more than a day, I end up put it up on the market before it arrives because I like the look of something else more, or I really thought I wanted a 5 string, and I end up doing too much research and trying to see what everyone else likes, that then convinces me that I must have that it's how my mind works.
only to see the other side of the field when I have already bought it, and see that 4 strings are better to people.
Basses are not the only time this takes place, but I have always relied on what everyone else thinks of something to where I am so indecisive, I rarely strike gold this way, and end up wasting money and feeling awful.
If there was more than 1 guitar center anywhere less that an hour away from me I would go every day, but the one I have around here only has low end ibanez basses, and not much else as they are relatively new, I wish I could go to any other store, but I know I would end up buying something there that I would do the same thing with, I would play a few for a minute, see one I liked the look of, buy it no matter the cost, take it home and then not want it after a day of having it.
I am an unsatisfyable person.
Wow, I have read every post you’ve put in this thread whilst metaphorically banging my head against the desk... your problem isn’t the basses you’ve bought and sold it is (sorry if this sounds rude, it’s not meant to be - try to think of it as tough love if that helps) your need to grow up. It’s one thing to act like you’re acting but to do it while FULLY KNOWING you’re doing it and that it’s a stupid thing to do but refusing to actually address the issue is either incredibly weak or childish or both.

So instead of trying to address the problem you’re asking for advice about how to lose a bit less money while continuing to flip basses that you’ve bought on impulse and “am selling/sold I never even took out of the packaging it was shipped in before selling them.” You talk about wanting to find “the one” to start learning on. But you simply have no knowledge, experience or frame of reference to tell what that even is. Who knows, maybe your “perfect bass” was one of the ones you sold while it was still wrapped up in its box. How would you know? Even if you had tried playing it.

But I want to play a 6 string bass” is simply another diversionary tactic and an excuse for a whole new set of endorphin rushes from pressing the button on this week’s new 6 string bass - which you will continue to flip like you’ve flipped the 4s and 5s.

So what should you do?

  1. You should decide... no, you should DETERMINE to keep the Carvin (like others have said, it is a really nice bass and a much better bass than most people get to learn on).
  2. You should learn how to play on the Carvin, to improve your bass playing skills and develop your musical ear. End of. No arguments. If there are things on the Carvin that niggle you learn how to play around them, or to tolerate them, or to use those apparent problems to enhance your playing.
  3. You should solemnly promise yourself not to buy or sell any basses for the next 12 months - 24 months if you can manage it. Stick it up on post it notes or on posters ni every room in the house. Stick it up on the bathroom mirror. Have it as the home screen of your mobile phone. Keep on reminding yourself that you have determined to do it.
  4. Tell your family, friends and co-workers that you are not going to buy any more basses for the next 12/24 months and ask them to give you merry hell if you do buy one or if they even see you browsing on guitar shop websites.
  5. Spend some of the money you are losing on flipping basses all the time on one to one bass lessons. And tell your bass teacher that you’re not going to flip your Carvin too.
And if that sounds like what you do to give up smoking... well it is. You’re not hooked on bass guitars. You’re hooked on the adrenalin and endorphin rush of buying a shiny new thing. Simple as that. End of lecture.
 
Keep in mind that guitars are iconography for Baby-Boomers and Gen-Xers - the subsequent generations started caring less and less about them as time moved on....They were a HUGE part of culture between the 60s and 90s - not so much today as they slide into niche market instead of mainstream....My prediction: Within twenty years, Baby Boomers will all be senior elderly-- most of their collections will be gone on to their children or grandkids (who dont care about guitars) and the market will be flooded with vintage and boutique instruments fetching prices nowhere near what they were initially appraised at.....so goes the Real Estate Market

I agree with this however i feel guitars in culture was still big until 2008. Its seemed to of really declined the last ten years. Although according to Martin there acoustic sales have been massive thanks to ed shearan.
I have a feeling guitar based music could make a comeback.
 
I agree with this however i feel guitars in culture was still big until 2008. Its seemed to of really declined the last ten years. Although according to Martin there acoustic sales have been massive thanks to ed shearan.
I have a feeling guitar based music could make a comeback.

I dont think it will ever go away completely and there may even be a temporary revival of sorts in the coming decade.....swing and big band music didnt go away after the mop tops hit in the 60s, but it did take a back seat and made a decline, occasionally raising its head over the last few decades. There is still a market for trombones and saxophones....Guitar-driven music will have an even larger backseat in the coming decades......there are some styles of music where it will endure (metal, reggae, and if country ever goes back to its roots)........but it wont be the icon for the next generations anymore like it was for the "music is life" Baby Boomers and Gen Xers: Right now, the icon for the newer generations is the smartphone (and everything it represents)............
 
Well, I think this is a case of the guy not knowing what he has...Yes the Carvin / kiesel is hard to get your money back on, in fact you won't if you do sell it. However I think that bass is a nice bass, I'm biased because I play a C/K bass...I have played a lot of different basses Fenders, Ibanez, Rick, a washburn, those are ones I've owned and I've played about everything in between at the music shops... To me, so far mine is the favorite bass I've ever owned..Those J99 (A) are great jazz pups and the preamp should be able to dial in something you like. The preamp is a decent one..Not groundbreakingly great but certainly far from the worst. My advice, take that to a tech, get new strings and have him set up your bass...It is a nice bass
 
I can't understand that...I've used a lot of Carvin equipment and found it all to be top notch in quality. I am going to have a Kiesel built for me at the end of this month. I don't plan on selling it when it's time...I plan on passing it down to my grandson. I guess he can sell it if he desires.
I don't know why either but as soon as you want to sell them, you have to low ball the price to get interest in it.