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Bass Combo recommendations for a backline

#21
esumsea said:
Thanks again guys. I think the backline 600 will do but it seems that I should have more concern with the cab. Pretty much I have to get a 4-10 (or two 2X10) cabinets from either eden or SWR. It looks as such I am going to be spending at least $700 on each rig. What are the opinions on the Genz Benz cabinnets? How about the fender 4-10 cab? What is the deal with the goliath ii cabs. I have seen some that say they are powered with $800, does such a thing exist? Also, would 2 2X10 cabs be just as good as a 4X10 cab? I am thinking of going that route so I can go 4 ohms with the two rather than the 8 ohms most 4X10 cabs are rated at. Also TOMMIX, did you get my email? A THousand Thanks to all who have helped me out. May the karma gods look favorably on you:hyper:
Regards,
Mario
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I wouldn't skimp on either the amp or cab but I would make sure the cab can take everything the amp is capable of putting out for sure. There will ALWAYS be at least one idiot who gets their jollies trying to destroy someone elses gear! Personally, I would choose the 410 over 2 210's because the 410 is going to give most player's more confidence at first sight, especially if it is a common brand that is generally associated with good quality and a good sound. The amp should be capable of driving the cab you choose. I am not familiar with Genz-Benz as I have just not used it. However, people that I know and trust are quite pleased with it and I would say based on their opinion that it should definitely be worth looking into. I would DEFINITELY spec a 4 Ohm cab!!!! Virutally any cab out there tha you may wind up with should have a 4 Ohm version...Stacks are for egos and appearance more than practicality in my opinion as it is highly likely that a good quality, single 4 Ohm 410 cab with sufficient power will realistically be loud enough for most any application that I can think of when combined with a quality wedge (the EAW certainly qualifies in that regard). I DID NOT receive any email so try and resend it or just PM me here....Thanks and Good Luck ask me anything else you'd like in the PM as well...God Bless!

Peace,

T
 
#22
Bang for the buck, I would go with a couple of used SWR Goliath 410's. The III Series is 700 watts and even the II Series is rated at 540 watts at 8 ohms. That is hard to destroy and should last well. The 210's are really not what you are looking for in a backline. If you need small / large rig then go with one 410 cab and at least a 800RB head or a used SWR 750 maybe, and then a redhead combo or metro combo. Like somebody above said, these combos can be set up later with a single 15 or 18 to be your 2nd Big Rig... they have enough power.
 
#23
I play thgrough a SWR Super Redhead and it kicks a$$. I play jazz clubs and churches mostly and never felt my SRH has ever come up short even at high volume. Of course if you are playing places where you have to crack the paint on the walls to be recognized a combo probably wont work for you... but in a few years neither will your ears! ;) It depends on your realistic needs. Besides who are you going to get to carry that stuff??:help:
 
#24
T-MOST said:
I play thgrough a SWR Super Redhead and it kicks a$$. I play jazz clubs and churches mostly and never felt my SRH has ever come up short even at high volume. Of course if you are playing places where you have to crack the paint on the walls to be recognized a combo probably wont work for you... but in a few years neither will your ears! ;) It depends on your realistic needs. Besides who are you going to get to carry that stuff??:help:
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I had an '89 Super Red Head and a Goliath II that it sat it on and it was a monster rig at the time. More than enough for any sane person! You play your own gear, you take care of your gear....The problem is that when you are a for hire company, you are not dealing with people who care about your gear....:( Some of them could care less if they blow a $800-$1200 speaker and those are the ones you have to be prepared for! My SWR served me well until I lost it in a fire a couple of years ago....Never had a problem of any kind with it and never spent a dime on it since the day I bought it! It is a GREAT piece of equipment as long as I was the only one playing it.....

Peace,

T
 
#25
I agree with everyone who suggests a little more budget for the setup.

I've seen, played and would recommend any GK 800, 700 or 1001 amp trough a Peavey 410TVX, SWR Goliath 410 or Ampeg SVT410. They're mostly the norm around backlines (Ampeg, GK and SWR mainly).

I think Peaveys are very good, are reliable and can take a beating. SWR is more expensive but also more clear sounding. I would keep GK as the brand for the amp and pick a 410 cab that you like and can get a good deal on.
 
#26
I have been loo**** at the 700rb GK amps. They have more power than the 800rb. I like GK's Direct out options that allow you to get a post effect di. That with the GK or SWR 410 seems like the way to go. I might also consider the super read head combo for the smaller stage and maybe get a 18inch extension or another 2-10 or 2-12. I have also looked at the eden traveler series that are a little less powerful but still robust at 300 watts, which is what the 800rb gives you (not including the secondary 100 watt speaker out). I have also thought about the SWR sm - 400,500 or possibly a 350 or 750 (how useful/necessary is that subharmonic effect in the x series?). In another forum they say that the amp that appears on riders most is the ampeg SVT. I checked them out and they are going for high prices. Their specs are not that inpressive at 350 watts so whats the deal there?
Also, How about the silverado special? At 350 into 4 ohms and 450 with a 4 ohm extension it is pretty powerful. The 2X12 cab takes 500 watts so I doubt someone could blow them with the amp. It seems like it may be an acceptable cabinet that I can maybe make into a monster with a 4X10 or 2X10 cab.
Best Regards,
Mario
(Tommix I sent you a PM but I guess you did not get it so I posted most of my questions here.)
 
#28
I bet Tbers would love that rig, but your average Joe bassist probably wouldnt trust or enjoy a rig like that. Sadly, you really need a head and cab.

I agree with the SWR comments, especially the Goliath 410 cabs. Thats something Id love to see waiting for me on stage.

Oh - the SVT is a kinda classic bass amp. Big bruising rock n roll type sound, think like a Marshall head. Everyone knows them and how to use them, even if you dont really like them most people will work with them.
 

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