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Bass Compression, do I need an expensive Pedal?

I really don't use pedals. I've simply found I personally have better results without them. That said, I've gone through a multitude of compressors trying to discover why so many people use them live. Recently, however, I stumbled upon the Origin Effects Cali 76. It is an unusually versatile pedal. I've been using it on gigs calling for an acoustic bass guitar. (I use a Martin BC 15-E.) Although I find I still don't use it live with my Alembics, it is quite useful for the acoustic work as it can really smooth the edgy sound of the ultra-zingy phosphor-bronze strings without noticeably squishing the tone.
 
Personally I don't want a lot of compression, maybe 1 to 3 dB max on peaks, but I do want the "sweetening" and "fattening" I have experienced in various studios with really nice rack comps.

I have yet to try a pedal that works for me. The closest was Ovnilabs Smoothie, but in the end I felt like I was fighting too much compression at the settings that gave me some sweets/fats.

It's a pretty personal thing, like most effects.
 
I used to own an MXR M87. It was a pretty good pedal. I've just been using the compressors in the Zoom B3 as of late and they seem to be fine. They sound pretty good to my ear and do the job in a band setting as far as getting notes to pop and also give a bit of that "studio tone".
I just dial in what sounds good to me and don't really care what other people have to say about things. If I was going to get another standalone unit I would definitely check out the Bass Preacher.
 
Personnaly I use the BOSS BC-1x and love it for slap. It is also fine to just bring the quiet stuff to hearing level.

I think it is nice to have one on your effect board but it is more to be sure to heard and to avoid pike. If you record, you'll most likely go into another compressor during the mixing process to contour your sound.
 
I dont know much about compression. But one thing I do know is that if you want decent compression, you have to spend decent money. If you get a Joyo comp, it's not going to be that great. I've heard some say that the comps in the Zoom pedals are decent. I have and use a TC Spectrecomp I got used for $70 I like a lot. I honestly think it's doing more tone shaping than anything though. The newer Seymour Duncan offerings arent that spendy and I hear they are good. But I always felt if I was going to really get a comp, and actually delve into the world of compression, I would spend the money and get a Cali, FEA Labs, Diamond or Empress, something along those lines. I've also used a DOD Milkbox and actually really liked that one. Almost added a tube quality to my tone.
 
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I totally agree that you get what you pay for. However, compression is a finicky beast even for those us who use it regularly and feel comfortable tweaking all the parameters. I still recommend an more user friendly compressor for first timers. Three knob jobs like the Diamond are an excellent choice. My favorite easy-to-use comps have program-dependent release times. Play some fast 16ths and the release time is relatively fast for more punch. Play some long half notes and you get nice long release times for better sustain.
 
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I dont know much about compression. But one thing I do know is that if you want decent compression, you have to spend decent money. If you get a Joyo comp, it's not going to be that great.
I got the Joyo comp and thought it was terrible. I absolutely don't get the reviewers who say it is good. All it did was kill the low end and make my tone bright and to top it off I really didn't notice any kind of compression effect. Not for me.
 
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I got the Joyo comp and thought it was terrible. I absolutely don't get the reviewers who say it is good. All it did was kill the low end and make my tone bright and to top it off I really didn't notice any kind of compression effect. Not for me.

I didnt think it was that bad. But like I said, I know next to nothing about compression. I know what it does, but its the one effect I have never really spend much time on at all. So you could put a joyo and an SD studio bass comp in front of me with a blind test and I almost certainly wouldn't be able to tell you the difference.
 
I have an MXR M87 Bass Compressor. I think it was like $189.00; general consensus is it's really a quality Bass Compressor. I'm sure the EHX Bass Preacher would meet your needs, but you'll have more control with the standard 5 settings. It's a "true compressor". BTW, the MXR Compressor for guitar has the same exact setup, which leads to believe that being "Bass specific" is important. It took me a while to play with the settings, but now that it's set, I never touch the knobs.
 
It depends on your style and what you're looking to hear. If you want to just use it a clean limiting device with little or no coloration to your sound you want a compressor that leans more heavily toward what's referred to as the "limiting amplifier" end of the spectrum of compressors. If you want something that's more of an effect (i.e. increases sustain, adds some tone coloration and thickening or "smoove" as my guitarist GF calls it) you'll want to look at compressors noted for adding "a little something" to your sound.

For clean primarily limiting functions I'd recommend a Keeley Bassist Limiting Amplifier. Easy to use, ultra clean and uncolored, and easy to set without fiddling with a lot of controls. One advantage of the simplicity is it's hard to get a really bad sound when using The Bassist. With more complex and tricked out compressors, you can get some really godawful sounds. Which is fine if that's a sound you need for a certain piece of music. But most times it's undesirable and just plain ugly to listen to. For live use, this particular compressor is as much as I need for live and mainly finger-style playing.

For more complex tone and level shaping, or for styles that need a lot of boost (tap) or attenuation (slap), or for recording, you may want something a little more controllable on a granular level. So you'll want a compressor with separate threshold, ratio, attack and release controls, some form of metering, and possibly a hard/soft knee and sidechain feature as well.

If you don't know what those all do, take a look at some of the many compressor 101 videos by makers like Keeley, along with some of the indy recording and music lesson sources on YouTube.

Check out the reviews and info at Ovinlab's website for everything (no exaggeration) you'll ever want to know about virtually every compressor pedal out there and exactly what each does.

Be prepared to put a little time and critical focused listening into it. Compression isn't something obvious like distortion/OD or modulation effects. It tends (when used right) to be subtle but significant. My test is things sound really good but not noticeable when it's on, and noticeably less good when it's switched off. But that's me. I'm more the limiting amplifier type of user. And it's only one (of many) ways to use a compressor.

Ultimately, it's up to you and what you're looking to accomplish. expect to spend between $150-200 for a really good quality limiting amp type compressor, and $200 (and up - as in way up) for more than that.

Fpr basic, good and relatively inexpensive clean compression I thing the Keeley Bassist is about as good as it comes. For something that does more than that I'd recommend a Keeley Pro Compressor for clean, and a Markbass Compressore or Ovinfx Smoothie for a little thickening and color you can buy without breaking the bank. For top end do-all compressors, about the only one I have enough direct experience with to recommend it is an Empress.

Luck and happy compressor hunting! :thumbsup:
 
The newer Seymour Duncan offerings arent that spendy and I hear they are good.

When I decided I might like a comp I read just about everything on the Ovnilab site and the SD Studio Bass stood out as a good candidate for what I wanted. I happened to find a used on the GC used pages and pulled the trigger. No regrets. Has enogh control options to even things out, add punch or sustain and NO noise and no tone suck.
 
I can heartily recommend the FEA Labs Dual Engine Compressor Limiter - quiet, high headroom, and will achieve any compression/limiting task you could need. Their Opti-FET unit looks pretty sweet too, though I haven't tried it.

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