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Bass Compressor, Which One?

Any experience with the newer version? I haven't read the entire thread.

Nope. Got tired of waiting for it to come back on the market and pulled the trigger on a used Smoothie about a month or so before the new dual mode opto version came out.

I might be tempted. But I’m up to five compressors pedals already and pretty well covered for what I need.
 
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...it’s convenient to not have to worry about certain settings that most people will set the same as the automatic settings anyway.
First, thank you for your informative response.

Regarding the Keeley Bassist, I'm just kind of imagining a bassist saying, "wow, I sure am glad I don't have those pesky attack and release controls to mess with anymore!" and wonder if anyone misses them.
 
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First, thank you for your informative response.

Regarding the Keeley Bassist, I'm just kind of imagining a bassist saying, "wow, I sure am glad I don't have those pesky attack and release controls to mess with anymore!" and wonder if anyone misses them.

You might hear someone say that they you only get five minutes to do their setup/soundcheck. It’s nice to just plug things in and only need to do minor tweaks before you start playing and be confident you’ll still sound good. :laugh:

The Keeley manual makes an interesting observation about how certain settings “just sound good.” And on a limiting transparent compressor targeted at a bass range instrument I’d have to agree.

They have their Pro compressor too. That has all the granularity anyone can want. So for multiple instruments in a studio it makes more sense. But they also included an auto switch which automates the A/R settings to dynamically match the levels of the signal source. Which works very well in the majority of cases. And the implementation has gotten favorable reviews for how well it works. So much so that you’re now seeing other companies offering a similar feature on their products.

If somebody does miss them all they need to do is grab a Pro model instead of the GC-1 or Bassist models - with the understanding that if you do use the auto switch you’ve basically turned the Pro into a GC-1/Bassist.
 
forgive me for reviving an old thread here, but i thought this was an appropriate place for this particular question.

does anyone have a compressor they like for both bass AND guitar? particularly for punchier, brighter bass and for heavily distorted guitar. I’m currently running an MXR 87 bass comp on my bass rig, and I can’t say i’ve ever noticed it doing much aside from sweeping some poor technique under the rug. I’ve been looking to upgrade/try something new, and was curious if anyone recommended a compressor that was versatile enough for a bass or a guitar rig, or if I’m sincerely better off with separate compressors for each.

strictly speaking for bass, i’ve been leaning toward the keeley or the cali76, if that’s useful info.
 
forgive me for reviving an old thread here, but i thought this was an appropriate place for this particular question.

does anyone have a compressor they like for both bass AND guitar? particularly for punchier, brighter bass and for heavily distorted guitar. I’m currently running an MXR 87 bass comp on my bass rig, and I can’t say i’ve ever noticed it doing much aside from sweeping some poor technique under the rug. I’ve been looking to upgrade/try something new, and was curious if anyone recommended a compressor that was versatile enough for a bass or a guitar rig, or if I’m sincerely better off with separate compressors for each.

strictly speaking for bass, i’ve been leaning toward the keeley or the cali76, if that’s useful info.

The MXR M87 Bass Compressor and the MXR M76 Studio Compressor are exactly the same pedal internally; the only difference is that they painted the enclosure black and took "bass" out of the name so guitar players would buy it. So, you already have one really good option for a compressor that works well on either guitar or bass.

The real trick to setting up any compressor as an "effect" is to understand what the settings do, and play with them to achieve the compression behavior you're after. Fewer controls can make it easier to dial in a specific "effect" of compression, because the pedal's circuit makes the assumption that you want that effect and changes the "full" set of compression variables to achieve the right amount of it at any setting on the knob. By the same token, however, a pedal that does one style of compression very well can be impossible to get a different sound from for a different genre, because that style uses different assumptions about the relationship of the full control set that's being simplified.

I admit my main use of the M87 is to even out dynamics in a group setting, and it is good at that. However, you can also get slap bass or chicken-pickin'/country compression out of the same pedal quite easily, you just need to play with attack and release settings and higher ratios to get that vise-grip clampdown with the right amount of initial attack for the style. For CP, you want the attack knob hard counter-clock for the shortest possible attack; for slap, play around in the 12-3 sweep. Release for both settings should be rather fast (clockwise on the dial); for slap you need the compressor to get out of the way of the next attack quickly, while for CP the goal is basically a ruler flat signal level, so a faster release lets the compression off faster as the input signal decays to keep the volume up.

Another good general-purpose compressor, if you have the money, is the Keeley Compressor Pro. It's a rack compressor/limiter in pedal form; full control set, including a soft-knee setting to hide the onset of compression a little better, and if you don't want to mess with it so much there's an auto-attack/release option as well (among other things you can have a specific setting for slap, then revert to general level control with "auto" A/R). Biggest downsides compared to the MXR are size ("double-wide" footprint on the board) and cost ($299 retail, compared to $189 for the MXRs).
 
thank you! that’s super helpful. i did a little more homework and the Keeley looks awesome. also, it’s based off of the DBX 160a circuit, right? i just saw someone recently say they used the DBX 160a on an album I really like, and i can’t for the life of me remember who it was. it’s another point for the Keeley, but now that’s gonna drive me nuts until i remember who it was..
 
I haven’t been searching too hard but the only compressor I liked so far was a cheapo Rocktron, and I plan to keep it on my practice/backup board. ($25 used)

thanks to the fine recommendations here on tb, I spent the most I have ever spent on a pedal and got this.... (be here Thursday)

It has good video reviews for guitar, but besides postings here I hadn’t found videos for bass.

The next step up from this I more than double the price.

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