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Bass for kids?

Tonight my son told me that he wants to be like his father and learn to play the bass. He has been playing guitar for about a year now, he's actually pretty darn good for a 10 year old. He has been taking lessons for about 6 months and he can really rip it up on his Epi Les Paul. This kid has natural talent.

More than I do, from what I can tell.

Anyways, he sat down and tried to play my Schecter, but the scale is just too long for him and he can't reach the lower frets well. He did okay, really, considering he's not very big and he's nursing a broken wrist on his right hand.

He's really a guitar player at heart, but I figure learning the bass can only help him. So we started talking about what bass to get him. The Squier Bronco came to mind, as it is (generally) a short scale bass that he could handle.

I was hoping to get some input on other options here. Any recommendations on cheap, short scale basses other than the Bronco? He actually can play a little......

Thanks!
 
Tonight my son told me that he wants to be like his father and learn to play the bass. He has been playing guitar for about a year now, he's actually pretty darn good for a 10 year old. He has been taking lessons for about 6 months and he can really rip it up on his Epi Les Paul. This kid has natural talent.

More than I do, from what I can tell.

Anyways, he sat down and tried to play my Schecter, but the scale is just too long for him and he can't reach the lower frets well. He did okay, really, considering he's not very big and he's nursing a broken wrist on his right hand.

He's really a guitar player at heart, but I figure learning the bass can only help him. So we started talking about what bass to get him. The Squier Bronco came to mind, as it is (generally) a short scale bass that he could handle.

I was hoping to get some input on other options here. Any recommendations on cheap, short scale basses other than the Bronco? He actually can play a little......

Thanks!
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Rondo seems to be putting out a lot of longer scale basses lately but its not a bad option if they have a shorty. I'd personally prefer the Bronco, or the Gretch Jr Jet. Better yet - my first choice would be the Squier Vintage Modified Mustang which sells for about $275. I have never seen the SVMM in a store but they are out there and you can order one online.

The Allen Woody is nice but not a great choice for a kid because of the hollow body and many would say the tone is not is versatile as a Mustang type bass.
 
Squier Jaguar Short Scale is your best bet for the money. Squier Mustang is even nicer if you want to spend an extra hundred.

Given the OP's situation, I think the SX packages that fourstringbliss linked above are actually the best bet for a starter instrument.

The Jag shorty and the VM Mustang are nice, but they cost more. If the OP is looking for a decent, inexpensive bass for his son, the SX 3/4, short scale stuff is hard to beat. Even with shipping, the package will run him a few Hamiltons less than the Squier Jag SS, and a whopping $130 or so less than the Mustang. That's nearly the cost of another bass.

Cheaper still - find a gently used Bronco at a pawn shop and throw a few bucks at it for new strings and a set up.
 
Given the OP's situation, I think the SX packages that fourstringbliss linked above are actually the best bet for a starter instrument.

The Jag shorty and the VM Mustang are nice, but they cost more. If the OP is looking for a decent, inexpensive bass for his son, the SX 3/4, short scale stuff is hard to beat. Even with shipping, the package will run him a few Hamiltons less than the Squier Jag SS, and a whopping $130 or so less than the Mustang. That's nearly the cost of another bass.

Cheaper still - find a gently used Bronco at a pawn shop and throw a few bucks at it for new strings and a set up.

Yeah, I'm thinking this is the way to go.....

I'm not entirely sure that wanting to play bass is more than just a "flavor of the month" for him, he plays guitar (and is quite good given his age and experience), and part of me thinks (or knows) he wants to do it because Dad plays bass and he thinks it's cool. It's a blast jamming out with him in the living room.....

Personally I'm all for it. As a converted guitarist, I totally support his desire to play bass. I like it a lot more than guitar. Over time I've formed the opinion that children who want to play the guitar should start on the bass first. The reasons are based on my own experience and what I've learned;

- When you learn to play the guitar, you typically start with open chords. You're dealing with multiple strings, and most people are satisfied with learning WHERE to put their fingers, but many never learn WHY they go there. Or how to get the same chords on different places on the neck. So many players just stay "cowboy chord punchers" their whole life. This is because learning all of the notes on a 6-string neck is more intimidating than learning them on a 4 string neck.

- Guitar is generally played in "chord format", meaning quite often three strings or more are being played at the same time. Bass is most oftenly played in "single note" format, one string, one pluck, at a time. When learning guitar chords, each chord shape changes depending on where you are playing your root note. Then throw in triads and inversions, and it becomes increasingly complicated. It's complicated for many adults to learn, and even more difficult for children. As you learn to play bass more, you will eventually learn some chords and inversions of them, but many players never get to this level and remain root players or pentatonic players, both of which are widely accepted among young musicians.

- When first learning, bass is less intimidating and allows students to learn where each note is fretted on the neck as opposed to guitar, which is more complicated.

- Very early on, bass players will learn pentatonic scales and walking basslines. This allows them to understand music theory (in my opinion) much more quickly than you will on a guitar. All of us can fall back on playing chord tones in a song that match what the rhythm guy is doing. Even if it's simple root/third/fifths. And people think it sounds great. But I found music theory much easier to grasp as I learned to play the bass versus the guitar.

- Bass players MUST have good meter/timing. It's necessary. Even if you're not a natural, you can learn it by practicing with a metro. Learning meter and timing make you a better guitar player, if you don't have it you're limited to being a solo acoustic act with a microphone. And there's plenty of those out there who never learned to play with anyone else. Playing bass makes you stronger, musically.

- When putting together or getting involved in your first garage band, far more kids want to play guitar. If you play bass, your chances of getting asked to jam out are a lot better. I've looked at my son's friends and people he goes to school with that play in the band. For every kid who seems to want to play bass, there's 8 or 10 who want to play guitar.

- The skills you learn as a bassist vastly improve your understanding of guitar and your ability to play it.

- You might just find out that you thought you wanted to be a guitar player, but you're actually a bassist. Being a good guitar player won't make you a good bassist, but being a good bassist will make you a better guitar player.

So I'm on board with this. I think those SX basses look great for the money, I've been checking CL for a Bronco, there's a couple out there (were kid's basses that they gave up on). Gonna plan a trip to the store to try out the Ibanez, too.

Awesome suggestions! Keep 'em coming!
 
My daughter is 8 her first bass was the Ibanez Mikro. She also has the Squier Modified Jaguar. Both are very decent for the money as far as SS basses go. the Squier neck is longer than the Miko and had one of the best out of the box set up i've seen. Neck is straight and action is low. My only critique of the Squier is that the tone knob is very close to the input jack but probably not a problem for smaller hands and it would not deter me from buying. Fit and finish is very nice on her model. Simple controls with vol, vol, and tone make it easy for the younger ones to undestand the function and how sound is affected by the different control knobs.
the Mikro has a very nice sound and lots of tone options with the P bass and J bass p/u's. Probably to many tone options for younger players that should focus on technique for tone.
She still gravitates towared the Mikro because it has a short neck but i feel she will most likely use the Squier as her go to when she gets a little bigger.
They both are at similar price points so not much difference there. IMO, the squier modified jag has a pretty cool look to it
Ideally he could try different SS models out.
 

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The Ibanez micro bass will be a much better qaulity bass then the SX ones. The SX ones at the very least will need fret level & dressing. The frets on the Ibanez are also better qaulity flor the metal. SX bass frets have been referred to as overly soft by some luthiers whom have posted threads about fixing up Sx basses. Hardware, pups and construction qaulity on the Ibanez would also be better qaulity. Imo
 
I've got a short scale Rondo for my son, and it's pretty poor honestly, even for a cheapo. The Ibanez is a much better bass. It's more playable and has a neck that will be easier on small hands than the Rondo.
 

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