• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Bass for Modern Pop?

Jean_Michel_Jarre_-_Roland_AX-Synth.jpg
 
I'd approach this by carefully reviewing the set list and against the way you play.
I love a P Bass in a lot of situations but it won't suit the way I play...
This is because it might be 150% right on one track...but for Covers, you are looking at 30 tracks typically.
This is one big reason I use a Jazz..plus its a 5...
I'd get a quality J5...and develop that P bass mimick deal for certain tracks.

For versatility you want VVT...imv..
Blend is not quite the same.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ric Vice
I've seen Dua Lipa with a bassist that uses a Fender PJ. Bruno Marz's bassist uses a P and a J. Can't go wrong with P, J or MM.
+1 on this. Significant part of my covers band repertoire are pop songs from 2000' and 2010' (Lady Gaga, Destiny's Child, Rihanna, Christina Aguilerra, Gwen, Pink...). Four string PJ with multieffect that has octaver and couple of good synth patches, and you're good to go.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ItsmeSantiago
While I am a long time P-bass lover, I have found over the decades that
I don’t really get very successful results (now) with a flat-strung P playing most “modernish” music. That realization sort of took hold over long period of time, with lots of experimentation with basses, amps, strings, preamps. Even “bright” flats haven’t consistently worked, tho there have been several situational exceptions.

Recording is different story, but live, that combo doesn't work well for me now in current situation. Loud drummer and keys complicates it for me, so I need some roundish high mid punch to poke out of the mix. I’m sure a great sound guy with good ears could carve me out a nice audible space in our busy mix, and soup up the attack envelope so it sounds golden, but for me, it is much easier to use a jazz bass with a good pre (Sadowsky etc), or rounds on a P.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pbass2
+1 on an active 5-string for modern/contemporary pop music. (Or most any kind of music for that matter).

For example, the song "Good 4 U" by Olivia Rodrigo starts out on that low C# (it was recorded using a 5-string bass). Yeah, the song could be played an octave higher, but it doesn't sound as powerful.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ric Vice
Hi There, this is my first post so I hope i'm in the right section.
So I started playing in a modern pop/dance pop band recently (kinda like Dua Lipa, Miley Cyrus Lady Gaga) after many years playing Metal, and i'm considering buying a new bass for the occasion, but I'm struggling to decide which one. I've considered a Pbass, the warm tone surely serves the purpose, but it feels a little too vintage for this kind of stuff, I know I could get a Jazz and just close the neck pickup, and open it just when I need a little more of attack on the string but i'm not sure. A good compromise would be a PJ to get the split coil and still get an active electronic, but PJs are not really my thing. So i'm kinda stuck and can't decide. What do you think? If you have any suggestion i'm open to it, thank you guys🤙
Every hipster sound engineer and studio owner has p basses all over pop music. With that said I think it’s best to buck the trend and get something that you like that inspires you to play. I had a p bass and honestly I was bored. You can get anything you want for pop and I could name 10 basses right now that would do pop and so much more. I’d use whatever you were using for metal. A nice Warwick streamer would do it for me. If I was going to gig pop I’d probably use my streamer or my Ibanez sr505. Both are really nice for having a deep low end presence and sounds good in everything I try. My schecter or mtd z5 would work too. I like them for rock but honestly aside from Nick Shinzielos most mtd players are jamming gospel, r&b, country, jazz but it’s versatile for anything really.
 
In reality any/all basses would do the job, but that doesn't matter because you have to find the bass that makes you smile. I played in a few top 40 bands and my Laklands 55-02 and 55-94 sounded just right. Check 'em out.

These days I just use a Mike Lull PJ5, with TI flats, for everything. In 15 years I haven't met a band that the Lull couldn't own.
 
While I am a long time P-bass lover, I have found over the decades that
I don’t really get very successful results (now) with a flat-strung P playing most “modernish” music. That realization sort of took hold over long period of time, with lots of experimentation with basses, amps, strings, preamps. Even “bright” flats haven’t consistently worked, tho there have been several situational exceptions.

Recording is different story, but live, that combo doesn't work well for me now in current situation. Loud drummer and keys complicates it for me, so I need some roundish high mid punch to poke out of the mix. I’m sure a great sound guy with good ears could carve me out a nice audible space in our busy mix, and soup up the attack envelope so it sounds golden, but for me, it is much easier to use a jazz bass with a good pre (Sadowsky etc), or rounds on a P.
I was a pretty staunch P-always w flats guy for a looooong time (after years of having all kinds of basses I landed on that sort of retro-grouch mentality in the mid-90's and stayed that way until pretty recently). But between neo soul work and modern country stuff, man, I just realized I needed rounds (and in particular a Sadowsky PJ5 with nickel rounds ticks all the boxes). I still have more basses w flats than rounds, but the roundwound ones--P's, J's, Fivers, are simply more versatile and get most of the work. My roundwound basses can sound perfectly mellow and thumpy in a mix if I need them to, or they can be massaged to jump out more. There's just more there to work with. If I can only have one, it's gonna have rounds.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Luckydog