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Bass Gear Good Enough?

Looking at the pics, you'll be in the foh for sure, and there's nothing to worry about with what you have. Unless you're super far away from your amp, but then there's the monitors. Rock.
 
I am a little worried my gear wont be enough for bars such as The Park but my guitarist assures me its plenty and sounds great. Do you guys think I should worry or pickup a say Ampeg 6x10 or 4x10 ported cabs just in case? He tells me all the time I will run thru the house anyway doesnt matter.

Thoughts for me the noob?

I think you're getting some good advice from your guitarist. Try it and see how it goes, you can always adjust after you've had the experience. But I don't think it will be necessary.
 
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As others mentioned, your amp will really just act as your own personal stage monitor. If they have you coming out of the FOH system, no one in the crowd will hear your cabs and most likely the rest of the band will only hear you from their monitors. Your rig isn't monstrous, but it certainly isn't wimpy either - it very well may be plenty. I would give it a shot and go from there. It took me about a year, but I found I can cover every gig with a Barefaced 212 (with FOH of course).
 
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Not. Nearly. Enough. Bass Riggage.



Just kidding, I am being contrary since everyone is agreeing here. You'll be fine.

The only thing I would potentially do differently is to eventually shuffle your gear so that you don't have to use mixed drivers when going loud. As someone suggested, maybe sell the 15 and get a 4x10 instead that can pair with your 2x10... or move the 2x10 and get a 2nd 15". But, a 2x10 and a 4x10 gives you a lot more options than 2 15's do. That's not a "enough or not enough" riggage issue-- volume wise you will have enough with those mixed cabs or not-- just a sound quality/preference issue.
 
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Not. Nearly. Enough. Bass Riggage.



Just kidding, I am being contrary since everyone is agreeing here. You'll be fine.

The only thing I would potentially do differently is to eventually shuffle your gear so that you don't have to use mixed drivers when going loud. As someone suggested, maybe sell the 15 and get a 4x10 instead that can pair with your 2x10... or move the 2x10 and get a 2nd 15". But, a 2x10 and a 4x10 gives you a lot more options than 2 15's do. That's not a "enough or not enough" riggage issue-- volume wise you will have enough with those mixed cabs or not-- just a sound quality/preference issue.
Not sure I understand why it would be louder to have uniform drivers than mixed. Wouldn't mixed drivers be more present in the sonic spectrum, giving the impression of more presence?
 
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Not sure I understand why it would be louder to have uniform drivers than mixed. Wouldn't mixed drivers be more present in the sonic spectrum, giving the impression of more presence?

I think I phrased it ambiguously... it would not be louder when using matching cabs... what I mean is that when going louder e.g. when using more than one cab to obtain volume/output, it would IMO better better to use matching rather than non- matching cabs in that situation, for a better more reliable sound quality in that 2-cab siuation, not for more volume. Sorry that I was not very clear in my wording.

2 mixed cabs risk cancellation effects etc which is the reason I suggest this. In most cases there might not be a noticeable difference, but sometimes there could be depending on room conditions. Opnions on this vary however.

Also IMO mixed cabs would not create "greater presence" in the sonic spectrum but either have no relevant effect vs matching, which would be most of the time, or would have something of a negative effect or the reason cited above. Again just my opinion.
 
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Not sure I understand why it would be louder to have uniform drivers than mixed. Wouldn't mixed drivers be more present in the sonic spectrum, giving the impression of more presence?
Don't open that can of worms !!!
In short:
The power (1/2 heads rated output) to the mutidriver cab is divided between the drivers. Whereas 1/2 the rated output is being delivered to the single driver cab.
The single driver will reach its maxoutput long before the multi driver cab.
Also more cone surface as a general rule moves more air (as a general rule)
 
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I think I phrased it ambiguously... it would not be louder when using matching cabs... what I mean is that when going louder e.g. when using more than one cab to obtain volume/output, it would IMO better better to use matching rather than non- matching cabs in that situation, for a better more reliable sound quality in that 2-cab siuation, not for more volume. Sorry that I was not very clear in my wording.

2 mixed cabs risk cancellation effects etc which is the reason I suggest this. In most cases there might not be a noticeable difference, but sometimes there could be depending on room conditions. Opnions on this vary however.

Also IMO mixed cabs would not create "greater presence" in the sonic spectrum but either have no relevant effect vs matching, which would be most of the time, or would have something of a negative effect or the reason cited above. Again just my opinion.
I've used an SVT-410 HLF stacked on a SVT-15E for years, and (maybe because of the matched brand?) I've never had phase issues. In fact, from the moment I first added the 15 to my rig, my tone has only become bigger and gnarlier than ever. I remember, my band at the time had just finished having an album mastered right about the time I added the 15, and when I asked my guitarist what he thought of the new setup at rehearsal, his response was, "your live sound now sounds like it's been mastered"! LOL! Silly, but I get what he meant.
 
I've played many (many) gigs with a Phil Jones C8 (equivalent of a 2-10), without PA support. Also many with a 30W tube amp and a single 15. Your rig is probably overkill for most bar gigs.

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I gigged for a decade with just an SWR studio 220 and 2x10 cab. Played small bars to big venues. There were times where I wished I had another 100W of headroom but for the most part, it was fine. I feel spoiled now with a rig the same size but capable of 800W. The gain never goes above the quarter mark.

If you are loud enough to keep up with the drummer when he's acoustic, then you should be fine. If the drums get mic'd at a gig then the FOH should have a channel for you too.
 

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