Bass intro to "You're So Vain"

Discussion in 'Tablature and Notation [BG]' started by ric stave, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. ric stave

    ric stave

    May 6, 2006
    Buffalo, NY
    *Son of a gun*

    Who can tell me how that intro is played (original version)?

    Thanks!
    ~ric
     
  2. jdlwareagle

    jdlwareagle Supporting Member

    Nov 13, 2005
    Mobile , AL
    Sounds like an E chord rake after first striking an open low E . Did you know Mick Jagger is on backing vocals ?
     
  3. ric stave

    ric stave

    May 6, 2006
    Buffalo, NY
    I did know that about Mick.

    And the riff is in A, but I'm not sure what notes are being played and where - been faking it too long - want to know the 'correct' way.
    Can't really tell if it's hammered octaves, or if there's a fifth in there, and where it's being played. Sound similar to the bass solo in Dream Theater's Metropolis, and that one sounded more complicated than it actually is too.

    I tried searching for TAB on it, but didn't come up w/anything.
     
  4. Bob C

    Bob C

    Mar 26, 2000
    Duluth, MN
    I played that song a million years ago, and someone else taught it to me. So, I don't think I ever sat down and learned it off of the record.

    That said, I think it's built around an Am chord. Goes something like:

    open A to C (fifth fret, G string) A (seventh fret, D string) twice, to E (seventh fret, A string) to A (fifth fret, E string).

    That is the whole riff spelled out, which is played maybe four times before the vocal comes in.
     
  5. ric stave

    ric stave

    May 6, 2006
    Buffalo, NY

    Very cool - thanks! That seems to make sense (I'm at work, but I'll try it when I get home). Do you think it was more hammered or raked? I imagine the 1st A would be 5th fret on the E string then, rather than open, since the whole thing happens 2x fast and ends on the same A it starts on.

    Anyone happen to know who played bass on that? I always wondered.
     
  6. I think it was Klaus Voormann, the same one who played on Lennon's "Whatever Gets You Through the Night".
     
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  7. Bob C

    Bob C

    Mar 26, 2000
    Duluth, MN
    ric stave,

    Everything I said was from memory - a long time ago! It has a "raked" feel to it, IMO. The open A is more flowing, and the A on the E string is easier to mute for the end of the phrase (possibly). But I have no idea how it is really played.

    I'm pretty sure you can google a bio and discography on Klaus Voorman. i looked him up to find out who he was, after watching the "Concert For George" DVD.
     
  8. ric stave

    ric stave

    May 6, 2006
    Buffalo, NY
    Thank again guys - I'll work with it tonight, and see how it feels to play it best.
     
  9. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    Yes that was Klaus Voorman...very underrated bassist. I love his style.

    He was the same bassist on George Harrison's concert for Bangladesh.

    He actually has a history as an aquaintence of the Beatles before they were famous...I guess he and the original Beatle bassist had the same girlfriend for a while.
     
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  10. That's correct. And by the way, he also designed the album cover of the Beatles' "Revolver":
    [​IMG]
     
  11. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    That's right, I forgot about the album art.

    I love his meaty P Bass tone. Pretty much what I consider Perfect P
    Currently listening to this;
     
  12. Wasabi1264

    Wasabi1264 Guest

    Oct 3, 2004
    President: MusicDojo.com
    It's kind of funny to see this thread now as my band is getting ready to cover this song and we're going over it tonight for the first time. It seems at first blush, it's simply a rake...Hit the open A string, and then rake down a minor pentatonic shape, starting on the C on the G string, and raking through the A and G on the D string. It sounds pretty correct rhythmically, too. We would never have thought to cover it, but Foo Fighers did it recently on the Grammy nomination show (they sang horribly), and we thought it would be cool based on our singer's voice and piano playing.
     
  13. This is how I play it.

    G------5-5------5-5
    D----7----7---7----7
    A--0--------0--------0
    E----------------------

    The
    5-5
    ----7
    riff is a triplet and the open A is on the beat.
     
  14. bscenefilms

    bscenefilms

    Aug 10, 2010
    Sorry to resurrect an old thread but...

    I recently saw this: http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/site/sn/show.do?show=136655

    And I was watching how Klaus plays this - It looks like some kind of barre chord. Does anyone know what he is playing here?

    This looks close:

    But I think it's not quite it... Looks like he is hitting the A on the low E at the 5th fret as well...
     
  15. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    Bass Player transcribed this intro a couple years back...IIRC, no OPEN strings.
     
  16. bscenefilms

    bscenefilms

    Aug 10, 2010
    Yeah I think the open A in that tab there is really the low E at at 5th fret.
     
  17. Captain Bob

    Captain Bob

    Jan 4, 2009
    Nashville
    Here you go.....barred at 5th fret and fingerpicked quickly. Klaus Voorman played on some great records.

    T I M R M I T I M R M I T = Thumb, Index, Middle, Ring. Place each finger in order over the fret.
    --------5--------------5--------------
    -----(5)---5---------5----5-------------
    --(5)--------(5)--(5)--------(5)------------
    -5--------------5---------------5-------
     
  18. Minotauros

    Minotauros Guest

    Nov 23, 2009
    I am sorry to be dense, but what are the parens for? *ducks and runs* :bag:
     
  19. bscenefilms

    bscenefilms

    Aug 10, 2010
    So you are saying he is just playing all the strings with the 5th fret erm - Fretted? It looks like he is fretting 2 more notes around the 7th fret in the video maybe?
     
  20. Captain Bob

    Captain Bob

    Jan 4, 2009
    Nashville
    No, not according to me, but according to Klaus Voorman, in an interview as published in BP.