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Mojo-Man said:
WHO IS RIGHTFUL OWNER OF BASS?
If bass was bought in good faith, does that denote ownership?
Was bass stolen from Jaco, or did he sell it? (Only Jaco knows)
Given his state on mind, the last years of his life.
Do children have clam to ownership?
This will be hard to settle?

I know give it to me?:D
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I'm Ron Burgundy?
 
#42
If the basss was reported as stolen then the police would have seized it and returned it to the family already I'm sure. If it wasn't then 30th Street Guitars own it fairly and they don't have to return it.
 
#43
iplaybasstexas said:
did he really die by being beat to death? whats the story behind that?
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he was getting loud with a bouncer at a bar who had never heard of him. the bouncer beat him into a coma, and he died a few months later.

all the people saying "only bass players know who jaco is" are kind of wrong. any musician and/or jazz listener knows who jaco is..except for your average 16 year old shredder guitarist, but theyre hardley even a human being as far as were concerned..:smug:

i REALLY doubt that the guy who bought it for $400 diddnt notice the engraving on the headstock "rebuilt for jaco pastorius by.." and if he did just think it was a phony, thats fine, but he couldve looked into it, and probobly verified it fairly easily...he couldve contaced the luthier who rebuilt it, his name (that i forgot..) is ENGRAVED ON THE HEADSTOCK. a few pictures and an email could have been enough to get him to say "yeah, thats jacos bass." not to mention everything besides the "rebuild" parts (specifically the maple top) are from 1962..$400? really? arent the pickups alone worth.. nevermind..

the guy that bought it had to know it was stolen..if not when he bought it, shortly after.

anyway, cant change whats already happened, as far as whats going to become of the bass..lets face it, it belongs to the pastorius family. enough of this "it was the man not the instrument.." stuff, that bass is a symbol if everything jaco was, i mean..it doesent get anymore straight foward than "he was a musician, this was his instrument." that bass has so much more centemental value to the family than it would to anyone else. theyre not going to turn around and sell it for 75+ thousand dollars (itd probobly sell for more than that anyway?)

sure they should pay the music store something, more than $400 for sure, some kind of finders fee, but not its actual dollar value

i really cant see the family not owning the bass after this whole thing blows over.
 
#45
tomvelsor said:
he was getting loud with a bouncer at a bar who had never heard of him. the bouncer beat him into a coma, and he died a few months later.
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A slight correction or two....

Jaco had supposedly kicked in a glass door after being denied admittance to the club and gotten violent with the bouncer. He died ten days later when his family pulled him off of life support, not a few months.
 
#48
onlyclave said:
Pastorius family = Hendrix family.

A bunch of money grubbers at the expense of the dead one who made them a household name.
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This is going to be the first nasty post I have ever made on TB...Dude, your comment is way out of line. Do you know the Pastorius family personally? Did your father get beaten to death and die when he was 35? Do you have any idea what they plan to do with the bass if they got it back? Grow up and show some sympathy.

If Jaco was my Dad you could darn well bet I'd want his bass back. I just cannot believe how obnoxious and arrogant your post was....
 
#50
Just Thumpin' said:
This is going to be the first nasty post I have ever made on TB...Dude, your comment is way out of line. Do you know the Pastorius family personally? Did your father get beaten to death and die when he was 35? Do you have any idea what they plan to do with the bass if they got it back? Grow up and show some sympathy.

If Jaco was my Dad you could darn well bet I'd want his bass back. I just cannot believe how obnoxious and arrogant your post was....
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Get over yourself. If Jaco was your dad you could darn well bet you want a chunk of that cash. I happen to know the Hendrix family and how the bitterness and money motivates them. In the meantime I don't believe in superhero worship.
 
#52
If this is Jaco's bass, whoever has it should return it to the family. And the family shouldn't sell it, but Jaco's son should play it. If they do sell it, they should split what they get with the guys that give it back to them, less any expenses (including what the shop paid for it). But it really should be in a museum. I would hope they'd sell it to a rich guy who could could work out a museum donation - don't know what museum that woud be, but I'd go see it especially if I could play it.... If I could swing the bucks I'd try to find a way to do that....
 
#53
tomvelsor said:
all the people saying "only bass players know who jaco is" are kind of wrong. any musician and/or jazz listener knows who jaco is..except for your average 16 year old shredder guitarist, but theyre hardley even a human being as far as were concerned..:smug:
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I know a lot of guys that've never heard of him and they're accomplished musicians of all ages. I never heard of him till my cousin Jimmy showed him to me (he also plays bass) and that was because his dad (also a bass player) showed him.

I think many overestimate the impact Jaco had.
 
#54
GeneralElectric said:
I know a lot of guys that've never heard of him and they're accomplished musicians of all ages. I never heard of him till my cousin Jimmy showed him to me (he also plays bass) and that was because his dad (also a bass player) showed him.

I think many overestimate the impact Jaco had.
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+1

I am not an accomplished musician or anything, but like I think of myself as representing the average joe fairly well. I had never even heard of Jaco until I came to this forum. I could be a little off on my estimation of my place on the representation totem pole, but I am far from being a 16 year old shredder guitarist.
 
#55
GeneralElectric said:
I know a lot of guys that've never heard of him and they're accomplished musicians of all ages. I never heard of him till my cousin Jimmy showed him to me (he also plays bass) and that was because his dad (also a bass player) showed him.

I think many overestimate the impact Jaco had.
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Most GREAT bass players were influenced by Jaco. Maybe not a bunch of rock guys, but certainly serious players at least are aware of him.
 
#56
+1 to pretty much everything Curtybob has said.

and not to derail, but I get very tired of hearing that rock bassists aren't real musicians. There is a lot to be said for someone who can pump straight eighths in the pocket all night.
 
#58
This thread is getting ugly in some places....Here's a sunshine daydream; Sell the bass to some wealthy collector/investor/museum/hardrock cafe...something, and help develop music programs with the funds in surrounding school systems in NYC. Jaco's legacy is worth alot to his family and the history of music and why don't they do something positive with his instrument's value. Ok, I'm gonna go back to petting puppies in a field of daisies.
 
#59
willyrep said:
This thread is getting ugly in some places....Here's a sunshine daydream; Sell the bass to some wealthy collector/investor/museum/hardrock cafe...something, and help develop music programs with the funds in surrounding school systems in NYC. Jaco's legacy is worth alot to his family and the history of music and why don't they do something positive with his instrument's value. Ok, I'm gonna go back to petting puppies in a field of daisies.
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Thats a great idea, buy 750 SX basses and put them into schools :P

But really, that would be a really great thing to help music in schools.
 
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