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bass of doom found!

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By the way, I'm a customer of 30th Street Guitars. They literally have a new bass showroom almost everyweek, they get so much stock in. It is possible they bought the bass, and it sat collecting dust for 2 years in the back.
 
#22
Why is it so wrong to make a profit from something you truly believe is rightfully yours? I kinda thought that was how things worked. If the courts determine that the bass was stolen, and the family has a valid claim to the bass as stolen property, then so be it. I believe that will be hard to prove, given the whole thing about him leaving it seemingly anywhere, and on multiple occasions.

Acts of kindness are great. But if it's gonna cause me to lose $75K, I'd be ok with being a prick.
 
#25
:cool:

I'm a big Jaco fan.
This is interesting.
WHO IS RIGHTFUL OWNER OF BASS?
If bass was bought in good faith, does that denote ownership?
Was bass stolen from Jaco, or did he sell it? (Only Jaco knows)
Given his state on mind, the last years of his life.
Do children have clam to ownership?
This will be hard to settle?

I know give it to me?:D
 
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Curtybob said:
Acts of kindness are great. But if it's gonna cause me to lose $75K, I'd be ok with being a prick.
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30th Street Guitar only stands to "lose" the $400 (+ interest) they have invested in the BOD - the $75K is a windfall opportunity, not a potential loss. There's a difference.

With respect to the possibility of 30th St's returning the BOD to the family and then the family's selling it and enjoying the windfall, there are many, many ways that any lawyer with half a brain could prevent that contractually.

And someone posted something about a "new quilted maple finish." If that's the case, I'd seriously question the $75K valuation. What other mods have occurred over the past quarter century, and how much of the original BOD really remains here?
 
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RunngDog said:
And someone posted something about a "new quilted maple finish." If that's the case, I'd seriously question the $75K valuation. What other mods have occurred over the past quarter century, and how much of the original BOD really remains here?
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The tuners, the neck, the body, and the pickups. I dunno if the bridge is original to the bass or not, but it looks to be.

Jaco's tech rebuilt the bass after it got run over.
 
#28
It's a moral issue. The guy at 30th paid $400 for it. He would'nt be losing any money by giving it back to the family, other than the $400, which the family probably offered him. Greed at it's worst if you ask me. Sometimes, the right thing comes before making a buck. Sorry, but something in me cries foul at the prospect of capitalism being the end all in situations like this. But the law is the law I guess. We'll see what happens. Very interesting.
 
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RunngDog said:
30th Street Guitar only stands to "lose" the $400 (+ interest) they have invested in the BOD - the $75K is a windfall opportunity, not a potential loss. There's a difference.

With respect to the possibility of 30th St's returning the BOD to the family and then the family's selling it and enjoying the windfall, there are many, many ways that any lawyer with half a brain could prevent that contractually.

And someone posted something about a "new quilted maple finish." If that's the case, I'd seriously question the $75K valuation. What other mods have occurred over the past quarter century, and how much of the original BOD really remains here?
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If someone is willing to pay me $75K for something, and I give it away instead, I lost $75K + my investment cost. We can confuse this with fancy terms, but the bottom line is that if the 30th street shop owner does indeed legally own the bass, then it's worth vs. what he paid is irrelevant... except to his net worth.
 
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Sub5ound said:
You can't lose what you never had.
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Not true. The bass has already been counted as part of the showroom floor.

If you've ever been to 30th Street, then you know its entirely possible for them to have bought the bass, and forgotten all about it. As I said, only bassists know who Jaco is and I'm pretty sure their staff isn't comprised of bassists.:eyebrow:
 
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Sub5ound said:
You can't lose what you never had.
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Awesome. Can you put shingles on? Wanna come work for me? I'll pay you a wage, unless I give it away first. But no worries, you won't lose anything. I'll give it away first.

I know, someone will say it's different. But it's not. In the above situation, you'd be losing the worth of YOUR time. In the BOD situation, you'd be losing the worth of YOUR bass. If it's his, and it is indeed worth $75K, then all he'd be doing to his bottom line byselling it is liquidating an asset. IF you give an asset away, you lose it's worth.
 
#38
At this point, the burden is on the Pastorius family to prove that the bass was stolen.

Jaco could have very well:

a) left the bass behind
b) sold the bass
c) given it away

any of these things could have happened without ANY paper trail being required.

Had the bass been stolen (as the Pastorius' claim), then they must be able to produce at least a police report (or a copy thereof)...

otherwise, case closed...

the Pastorius family, if they want the bass back should just BUY the doomed thing!
 
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