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Double Bass Bass to Poellmann Workshop.

Dec 29, 2015
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I'm just back from my long overdue trip to Mittenwald with my Poellmann Cremona.
2500 miles return trip including a car ferry and the channel tunnel.
It was an effort, but I believe in living your dreams when you can and I'm glad I did it.
Mittenwald is a picturesque Bavarian town, 900m above sea level in the Alps.
I went walking and swam in the lakes surrounded by beautiful virgin forest and snow capped Alps while waited. Many locals wear lederhosen and traditional gear.
I had arranged in advance with Michael (Mike) Kramer, who seemed genuinely pleased to see me. I've met Mike before on several occasions and he helped arrange an Hotel.
I wanted my bass checked, serviced, tail wire changed, sound post checked, finger board shot, tuners cleaned and lubricated, varnish touched up and Moser flexible bridge adjusters inserted. The workshop is very neat and tidy. Michael starts work at 7am each morning which is when he wanted to meet me. I made it for 9!
My bass was made by Michael 15 years ago and has aged remarkably well. There were no major issues and he had all this work finished by mid morning the next day.
I was delighted with the result, very neat, tidy and professional. He did adjust the sound post, but it was fine.
When Michael installed the tuners, rather than remove a 7mm section from each leg of the bridge, he cut the legs and removed the 7mm from the top where the strings ride.
Michael prefers this method as it improves volume and give an easier bow response if that's what you want. He did give me a choice, but I went with his recommendation.
I was pleased with the very reasonable fee I was charged out of respect for my long journey. Michael's enthusiasm, knowledge and confidence in what he does is inspiring.
A very impressive guy who simply does not have enough hours in the day to match his boundless energy. I would do the same again if I need more work done!
 
You want a 5/4 bass?!?!? You planning on standing on a box to play it?
The string scale is only 107 cm, typical for a 7/8 instrument. The 5/4 comes from the air volume inside the body , mainly from the very wide lower part.
It should not be larger than a 5-string 4/4 like mine (110 cm).

But any Pöllmann bass will be 10.000€ (one or several times) over my budget.

And my luthier has a lot of sunken tops at his walls, almost all from Pöllmann basses which needed a new one.
 
As I understand it the legs are cut and drilled/tapped for the height adjusters without trimming off length. I have just bought a Despiau 2C treated 3/4 bridge whose arch is fairly low. The method described by Monobass above will add 7mm to the height of the arch therefore increasing the mechanical advantage of the legs so long as there is enough "meat" in the top of the bridge not to spoil it when the strings are lowered the 7mm to their previous height. I am going to try this on my new bass that awaits setting up if my luthier agrees.
 
I just had an email conversation with them about this bass:

Salzburg - Pöllmann Contrabässe

But it is about 10K over my budget!
Louis
Hi Louis, 16 years ago this Pollmann Cremona was way over my budget too and the only regret I sometimes have is that it's much too good for my volume and standard of playing!
I doubt you'll regret it as Pollmann Meister Basses especially those of recent years are excellent. Mike entered a German Bass Maker's competition in recent years, and as with almost every competition he enters, though few, he wins.
While I was in the workshop, Mike showed me a beautiful Salzburg which he had just finished and another Bass model, possibly a Rossi? which he was making for an "American client". So, these may be your basses. The Rossi was almost complete and the Carpathian Maple back was beautiful! Well flamed and very even. I only got a glance at these basses, they are now for playing!
I know the Salzburg which has a very playable geometry for upper register with the smaller upper bout which also, apparently, leads to an overall brighter tone.
I much prefer the Salzburg to the similarly shaped Alexandria.
Be sure to visit Mittenwald and try these basses and be sure to share your experience!

Here's my Bass showing my original bridge now with Moser flexible adjusters added.

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Great story, but can you provide a pic of that bridge? Based on your description what I am seeing is that Michael took the 7mm from the arch where the string slots would go, which kind of makes sense. And then the legs are cut further south, to make room for the adjusters?
That's correct as I hope my pictures below show.
He did caution that the bass would sound different, but most people are pleased with the new feel and sound. Whether as a result of the flexible adjusters or the lower bridge arch, my bass feels a bit more responsive, ie I can feel the bass vibrate more. However, it is too early to judge. I'll give it a few weeks of playing to let it settle and the new sound post position before I compare before and after.
 
The dimensions are very manageable (attached)
Yes, they are amazing dimensions. This is probably not the Salzburg I saw which seemed more like a typical 4/4. 53 top is great for mid-range and is the same as my Cremona 4/4.
75 lower bout is amazing! Even bigger that the Emperor.
Although the shape of the upper bout allows easy access to upper register, this bass seems ideally suited to Orchestra. What a beast, it is a playable monster!
 
Sunken tops on Poellman basses? That's unusual. Poellmann basses have a reputation as strong, well built basses with thicker tops than many.
Regarding to the information of the luthier (who learned at the Pöllmann workshop) it is not unusual. But maybe they changed something during the years and the instruments have thicker tops now. The sunken tops he has are rather thin (he called it paper thin).

But I also have a sunken top from a different manufacturer with a thick top 5-string, 4/4, 110 cm), so that can also happen with thick tops. But my bass is still playable, I added a Moser HVU (adjustable saddle) and probably can use it as long as I live.
 
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Regarding to the information of the luthier (who learned at the Pöllmann workshop) it is not unusual. But maybe they changed something during the years and the instruments have thicker tops now. The sunken tops he has are rather thin (he called it paper thin).

But I also have a sunken top from a different manufacturer with a thick top 5-string, 4/4, 110 cm), so that can also happen with thick tops. But my bass is still playable, I added a Moser HVU (adjustable saddle) and probably can use it as long as I live.

When I played in Göttingen we had all Pöllmann fivers. Most were from the '90s but one from the '70s. Sinkage is about the last thing I would expect from them. They are tanks. One went down hard on its bridge when my stand partner passed out during a concert suffering a bad flu. The bass was not damaged at all. The bridge only needed to be tapped into position.
 
Sunken tops on Poellman basses? That's unusual. Poellmann basses have a reputation as strong, well built basses with thicker tops than many.
Very unusual. I had the top off a four string Emperor and it measured 12mm in the center but sounded fantastic. For comparison, my current german bass measures 8.7-8.9mm over most of the top, thinning to just over 6mm at the edges. There is no sinkage at all after seventy years other than the slightest f hole deformity on the bass side.
I know of a Pollman in the area which was ruined by a luthier who thinned the top to the point it sunk. The owner is considering making a new top for it.
 
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