Hello all. I want to start a two piece band. I have been inspired by Royal Blood. However I want to use my Bass VI. I want to use bi amping with a guitar and bass amp using an ABY. The signal going to the guitar amp will pass through a Micro Pog to shift it up an octave. The signal to the bass amp will stay natural. I want to use a compressor for both signals. Is there a specific compressor I should use for a Bass VI or can I use anything? Will I need two compressors? One for each signal? I dont want anything too fancy with a million knobs on It. I just want a subtle compression. Also the smaller the comp is in size the better. For example the Mooer Yellow Comp. Thanks in advance!
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Bass VI & Compressor
- Thread starter Bruce85
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I use one compressor, sounds fine, but for your use you might want to look at something like the Dual Band compressor from FEA, or something similar
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Just think of it as two compressors in one
One to focus on the bass, one to focus on the treble.
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I ideally need a pedal to come after the ABY for what im trying to do. Anything out there similar to the FEA that has two inputs instead of two outputs?
I ideally need a pedal to come after the ABY for what im trying to do. Anything out there similar to the FEA that has two inputs instead of two outputs?
bongomania
Commercial User
Here's the deal. You have two main options: Use one compressor, and place it first in the chain, between the bassvi and the splitter box. Or use two compressors, each on the separate legs after the splitter, before the amps.
If you can find a used TC Electronic Nova Dynamics, it was actually two compressors with two independent sets of inputs and outputs, in one pedal housing.
You can use pretty much any compressor on a bassvi, but of course a comp that doesn't work great on bass will not bring out the bassy qualities of the bassvi. The reason to choose a dual-band comp is because it compresses the lows and the highs separately, so peaks in the lows won't cause the highs to get sucked down.
For a dual-band that is simple and not crazy expensive, get a used EBS. There are cheaper ones like the Ashdown, but I'm not a fan.
All that said though, I would more strongly recommend you get two compressors, one for each post-split path. You could use any of the micro comps like the Mooer on the "guitar" path, and then a more bass-friendly pedal like the Boss LMB-3 on the "bass" path. You might be able to pick up both of them used for under $100 total. A micro sized one that I like for bass is the Fairfield Accountant.
Regarding complexity, number of knobs, etc., you'll get the best results if you take the time to learn how to set the various controls on a compressor, how they work, rather than just hoping for plug-and-play easy. Many people who hope to get good sound on bass from a comp that only has two knobs come away disappointed.
If you can find a used TC Electronic Nova Dynamics, it was actually two compressors with two independent sets of inputs and outputs, in one pedal housing.
You can use pretty much any compressor on a bassvi, but of course a comp that doesn't work great on bass will not bring out the bassy qualities of the bassvi. The reason to choose a dual-band comp is because it compresses the lows and the highs separately, so peaks in the lows won't cause the highs to get sucked down.
For a dual-band that is simple and not crazy expensive, get a used EBS. There are cheaper ones like the Ashdown, but I'm not a fan.
All that said though, I would more strongly recommend you get two compressors, one for each post-split path. You could use any of the micro comps like the Mooer on the "guitar" path, and then a more bass-friendly pedal like the Boss LMB-3 on the "bass" path. You might be able to pick up both of them used for under $100 total. A micro sized one that I like for bass is the Fairfield Accountant.
Regarding complexity, number of knobs, etc., you'll get the best results if you take the time to learn how to set the various controls on a compressor, how they work, rather than just hoping for plug-and-play easy. Many people who hope to get good sound on bass from a comp that only has two knobs come away disappointed.
Fantastic
Fantastic reply! Thanks!
Would you mind recommending some more bass comps that I could look up please!
Fantastic reply! Thanks!
Would you mind recommending some more bass comps that I could look up please!
The stores where I live basically only keep Boss, Digitech and EHX.
So my purchase is going to be online based on reviews and YouTube.
So In order to help me narrow down my options, Could someone please list the best options for guitar and bass Comps regardless of their size and amount of controls and then also the best for each in micro size. There is just far to many to go through to read every review and watch every video on the net. Thanks!
So my purchase is going to be online based on reviews and YouTube.
So In order to help me narrow down my options, Could someone please list the best options for guitar and bass Comps regardless of their size and amount of controls and then also the best for each in micro size. There is just far to many to go through to read every review and watch every video on the net. Thanks!
Ba55Man1ac
Gold Supporting Member
One more question...
If im using overdrive or distortion majority of the time on the signal going to the guitar amp would a Comp with a blend knob be important or not?
Or would a comp with a blend knob be more important for the bass signal as that one will be clean all the time. Thanks.
If im using overdrive or distortion majority of the time on the signal going to the guitar amp would a Comp with a blend knob be important or not?
Or would a comp with a blend knob be more important for the bass signal as that one will be clean all the time. Thanks.
+1. Bongo knows compressors.
I'll drop an unsolicited testimonial here, to his Smoothie compressor. A really musical-sounding box, to my ear--and the ability to blend dry and processed signal is great.
(I lent mine to a buddy a couple weeks ago...and he ain't in any kind of rush to give it back!)
Hey all. After reading many reviews and listening to YouTube demos I can tell you what has appealed to me so far.
1. Heavy Electronics Sonic Oppressor
2. Keeley Bassist Limiting Amplifier.
Has anyone here tried both? Which works best on bass in your opinion?
Thanks!
1. Heavy Electronics Sonic Oppressor
2. Keeley Bassist Limiting Amplifier.
Has anyone here tried both? Which works best on bass in your opinion?
Thanks!
bongomania
Commercial User
bongomania
Commercial User
Subtle distortion, meaning alterations in the wave shape besides just changing the amplitude (levels).
Exactly what that sounds like is too difficult to describe in words, but basically it means "not transparent" and some people want that, because they may like the particular flavor it adds.
Exactly what that sounds like is too difficult to describe in words, but basically it means "not transparent" and some people want that, because they may like the particular flavor it adds.
Thank you for that.
Have you ever used a Demeter Bass EQ Preamp or a Tri Logic Bass Preamp? Considering getting one of the two. Thanks.
@Bruce85
Tough to know what is going to work for you. There are too many variables in every player's equation for the people who have already tried to help to have all the answers.
For example: Things to consider... what bass amp are you using (tube or solid state?); what guitar amp are you using (tube? if so you may not want/need a compressor on the guitar side if you're always going to push the tubes hard — let the tubes do the compression for you). How many watts is your bass amp, how many watts will you need for your guitar amp relative to the bass amp, indeed relative to your drummer? Gonna have lots of other effects, or just different levels of dirt with maybe a bit of reverb/delay or tremolo on the guitar side ?? ... Endless possiblities and permutations.
Half the fun is figuring all this stuff out!
If it was me and I needed to save board space (stages around here are Tai-Nee) I'd be getting two Accountants (leverage a deal with a retailer for a discount ex Prymaxe
) and be done with it. If I needed to save even more money? Accountant for the bass side and a Hotone, Mooer or whatever other cheap 1590a-sized comp for the guitar side — I've heard lessor compressors are adequate for guitar, if not the greatest on bass. From what I've read, the bass side will be the trickiest to deal with compression-wise.
Alas, I don't know any drummers willing to try such a project, not to mention my playing skills aren't quite good enough to hold that much responsibility. I've met the drummer from a B&D duo here, DP. Lotta fun live, see if you like 'em, I can only find one vid they've done.
Tough to know what is going to work for you. There are too many variables in every player's equation for the people who have already tried to help to have all the answers.
For example: Things to consider... what bass amp are you using (tube or solid state?); what guitar amp are you using (tube? if so you may not want/need a compressor on the guitar side if you're always going to push the tubes hard — let the tubes do the compression for you). How many watts is your bass amp, how many watts will you need for your guitar amp relative to the bass amp, indeed relative to your drummer? Gonna have lots of other effects, or just different levels of dirt with maybe a bit of reverb/delay or tremolo on the guitar side ?? ... Endless possiblities and permutations.
Half the fun is figuring all this stuff out!
If it was me and I needed to save board space (stages around here are Tai-Nee) I'd be getting two Accountants (leverage a deal with a retailer for a discount ex Prymaxe
) and be done with it. If I needed to save even more money? Accountant for the bass side and a Hotone, Mooer or whatever other cheap 1590a-sized comp for the guitar side — I've heard lessor compressors are adequate for guitar, if not the greatest on bass. From what I've read, the bass side will be the trickiest to deal with compression-wise.Alas, I don't know any drummers willing to try such a project, not to mention my playing skills aren't quite good enough to hold that much responsibility. I've met the drummer from a B&D duo here, DP. Lotta fun live, see if you like 'em, I can only find one vid they've done.
