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Bass weight wimpiness?

Played my 11lb 1978 Precision using nothing but a 2" wide Levy's hemp guitar strap for a 3 hour set during the day then a 4 hour set later that night and a couple more hours at an after party. Have to admit that made me a bit sore the next day. I think I'd like to find one of those massive sheepskin straps Phil Lesh used to use. You know the one from the Grateful Dead movie? That'd be perfect!
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Have you guys looked into the Mono Betty strap?

Its a strap that distributes the weight well and hold the bass in position (which I love) but does not lock it stiff in either.
Love these straps.
 
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My main player 4003 is just over 10 lbs with the Hipshot bridge.

9 or 10 lbs just feels normal, and too light of a bass feels very uncomfortable.
I played a Squier P at a pawn shop once that must have weighed 7 lbs or less.
It felt like it was going to float away like a balloon!

I have used my 4080 for a whole night a few times (over 14.5 lbs) without a problem, but if I'm tired before hand it really makes my shoulder ache.

So, not so much fitness, but whether I'm well rested before playing makes a noticable difference in how quicky my shoulder aches.
And I'm 48, so I agree that things that didn't faze you when you're 25 do start to matter when you're older.
 
It really depends on how I'm feeling that particular day. If I'm out and about all day long and lifting things, bending over, etc. then shouldering a 12lb bass for a 3 hour gig can really suck. But on the other side, if I'm feeling pretty good then it's not an issue.

Since I always bring two basses to a gig, when I want to play one of the heavier ones I'll usually pack a super light one as the 2nd bass. That way if the heavy one really bothers me I can switch to the light one.
 
Primarily, a player has to be comfortable when playing. For many of us, advancing age and physical limitations do change that equation. In any case, it should NEVER hurt to play.

A good strap is certainly a necessary investment.

Setting strap length to get proper positioning is also pretty important.

For my purposes, I find that instruments below 8 1/2 pounds, if they are extremely resonant, make great pizz instruments and for fretless. But, I do not care for their response playing plectrum or slap.

Generally instruments above 9 1/2 pounds are heavier than I want to deal with. Also, there is more to the mechanics on the shoulder than just the mass of the bass. Neck heavy instruments can be held in place on the shoulder with a good strap; but, that comes at the expense of torque on the shoulder that can also be uncomfortable. So, weight and balance are both important factors. In fact, just making the bass lighter may actually result in more torque, which is not necessarily a good thing. It all matters. I would be cautious with really light basses that do not balance well.

I tend to prefer my instruments to be well balanced in the range of 8 1/2 to 9 1/2 pounds. That range for me provides the tonal response I prefer while being manageable for 4 hour gigs. I also understand others may have back issues etc that may not allow. In that case, I would actually recommend getting a comfortable stool and simply sit down while performing. Nothing at all wrong with that.
 
Even with a torn rotator cuff and compressed back discs I never had a serious problem with bass weight until my late 40's. Today I find around 9.5 lbs is my limit, and that only works if the bass is well balanced. My Nordy weighs a little over 9, I don't have issues with it. My old Fenders both weigh around 9.5 and I don't have an issue with them. My Telecaster bass ('69) weighs a bit over 10 lbs and leaves my shoulder sore. I will probably sell it for this reason - it should be played.
 
Primarily, a player has to be comfortable when playing. For many of us, advancing age and physical limitations do change that equation. In any case, it should NEVER hurt to play.
I also understand others may have back issues etc that may not allow. In that case, I would actually recommend getting a comfortable stool and simply sit down while performing. Nothing at all wrong with that.


It's not so much about the weight on your back.The strap rests on your Carotid arteries and/or Jugular veins.Too heavy a bass CAN pinch off your neck arteries/veins and restrict blood flow to the head.

Back in 2000,I used to own a Warwick Corvette.But strange things began to happen.While playing I would yawn continually and get light headed with neck and upper back pains.I'd take the bass off,the yawning,light headedness eventually stopped.If I would put it back on,after a while the yawning and pains returned.To me the Corvette was a heavy bass.Heavier than any bass I've ever had.I figured that the weight of the bass pulls on the strap which constricts the veins,arteries,and/or muscles in the neck(I forget which side.Jugular vein.Carotid artery)At any rate I ended up selling the Warwick and bought a much lighter Washburn Taurus T24.No yawning,back pains, or light headedness.
 
Played my 11lb 1978 Precision using nothing but a 2" wide Levy's hemp guitar strap for a 3 hour set during the day then a 4 hour set later that night and a couple more hours at an after party. Have to admit that made me a bit sore the next day. I think I'd like to find one of those massive sheepskin straps Phil Lesh used to use. You know the one from the Grateful Dead movie? That'd be perfect!
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I have an 11.5 lb Precision bass that was my main bass during the 80s. I still use it but for shorter gigs. I used it for a 4 hour gig a few years ago and my left trap was sore all the next day.
 
Just to reiterate what has been said in previous pages, medical conditions can change all of this preference stuff in one stroke.

Pain of the "I pushed a little hard at the gym last night" variety is one thing. But any kind of medically-related chronic pain or discomfort that has even a hint of neurological origins (numbness, tingling, etc.) should NOT be ignored.

For that reason, I now have a hard-and-fast 8 1/2 lb rule for basses that I'm going to play standing up. I just can't afford to let my chronic back problems escalate any further than they have over the last 40 years.

I am still enjoying a busy gigging schedule, I love playing almost as much as life itself, and I'm not ready to be forced out by another injury. That's it, that's all...
 
I like lighter basses, but only because they seem to facilitate more stage antics without facilitating more shoulder pain. Less weight+less momentum, and when jumping, this is very wonderful. I had a Fender Zone, and it was uber light. I loved it, but the tone wasn't there. I now have an Ibanez RD707 that probably sits just shy of 8. Antics away!
 

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