sounds better on vocals than my dod fx7 does... which is what i goof around with now.
can it make me sound like the devil?
can it make me sound like the devil?
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Bassists Who Sing, Check This Out
- Thread starter Stampy
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It's used live all the time. Few admit it but a couple that have are Faith Hill and Reba McEntire both of who are good singers without any help.
The creator of Auto-Tune comments "My wife wears make-up, is that evil?"
Faith and Reba wear make-up too.
A singer on the road needing to perform every night, subject to catching a cold, or flu - might need a little help from time to time. If it's a big concert - you bet the promoters want all the insurance they can get. Taking the night off is not an option.
With the extreme pitch shifting starting with Cher - it's just another tool in the hands of the musician. It's up to the musician what effects and how to control them for their sound.
Guitar, keyboards, and bass, have had effects they themselves control. The sound engineer out front has been controlling the singer's effects. Now some singer's get to control their own effects. If they're up to it, then good for them.
There's a lot of festival gigs where you get just a few minutes to setup between bands. These festivals come with their own rental sound system, including their own engineer who will insist on running the sound themselves. They will not have practiced with the band and isn't going to know what effects to kick in at what part of a song. These pedal devices let the singer quickly setup and change the effects on the mic themselves.
This direction in technology is all good in my book.
Good one, a little practice with it and use of pitch correction will keep the neighbors from plugging thier ears every time I sing into a mic. Good features, think I'll get one.
I apologize if I came off as being condescending. You make a good point with regards to feedback concerns. I still think the product is potentially viable (barring feedback concerns) because most of us don't gig where the sound guy knows the show as well as the singer and can switch effects as needed.
If I was singing I would want pitch correction such that I could hear that I was off and make internal adjustments so I didn't get too far off the reservation.
KO
If I was singing I would want pitch correction such that I could hear that I was off and make internal adjustments so I didn't get too far off the reservation.
KO
Actually, I´m quite aware how it works (as I´ve done sound for a living for 15 years), but my point is:
Monitor mixes are usually kept clean of effects for a reason, hence the
Having distorted vocals in your monitors, or nearby vocal PA, will almost invariably lead to massive feedback. And I fail to see the logic behind live pitch correction for 2 reasons:
1. Pitch correction algorithms of present day aren´t even remotely fast enough (glitches in tracking etc.) nor sound good enough for live use.
2. If the singer can´t sing in tune, shouldn´t he/she be taking singing lessons?
Thus, I don´t see this going far. The pedal might have limited use and popularity, but still... There have been similar pedals before, and none of them made it very good...
Oh, and the pitch shifting on the death metal clip was ridiculously cheesy.
LOL @ the metal girl using the harmonizer. It was scary.
There are some nifty effects in there. My band has a song that features a pretty lengthy scream. In the recording we cut up the scream so it skips a bit. The strobe effect would be interesting to try in that setting.
There are some nifty effects in there. My band has a song that features a pretty lengthy scream. In the recording we cut up the scream so it skips a bit. The strobe effect would be interesting to try in that setting.
There aren't enough effects in it. Where's flanger? Or wah wah? If we're going to have a vocal effects unit, let's have a VOCAL EFFECTS UNIT!!!
I got it in and tried it out. It's going to be very useful. No one else in my band sings so it will help with the backing vox.
I was mainly interested in the double and triple voice effects - these work very well. You can change the parameters in each of the sounds. They sound pretty good as is but if you tweak some of the parameters they sound even better, more natural.
Played around with the looper, I can think of a few places where this would be cool to use - but I would need to practice with it to get the loop start and stop at the point in the song.
The harmonies sound pretty good too, I imagine they would sound even better in a full band setting with all the music going. Not too artificial.
Played with the auto tune as well. It seemed like it worked well but I don't think I'll use it just yet. You have to change the key to the key of the song you're doing. Although you could set up a preset for each song or key and switch with the pedal.
All and all I think it was a good purchase, I'll update after I use it in rehearsal next week and then again after our gig on 12/19.
I was mainly interested in the double and triple voice effects - these work very well. You can change the parameters in each of the sounds. They sound pretty good as is but if you tweak some of the parameters they sound even better, more natural.
Played around with the looper, I can think of a few places where this would be cool to use - but I would need to practice with it to get the loop start and stop at the point in the song.
The harmonies sound pretty good too, I imagine they would sound even better in a full band setting with all the music going. Not too artificial.
Played with the auto tune as well. It seemed like it worked well but I don't think I'll use it just yet. You have to change the key to the key of the song you're doing. Although you could set up a preset for each song or key and switch with the pedal.
All and all I think it was a good purchase, I'll update after I use it in rehearsal next week and then again after our gig on 12/19.
Ever noticed that almost every singer used to promote these vocal pedals are barely decent even after the processing?
Hawkeye
Canuck Amateur
+1 I'm glad somebody else noticed. Sounded like American Idol wannabees who didn't make it from the regional auditions to Hollywood.
When I was directing worship teams at our church, our guitarist brought his TC Electronic version of this box. It sounded like he was being backed up by Alvin and the Chipmunks. I gave the technology the benefit of the doubt and assumed USER ERROR on the unit's harmony settings. If these things are good-sounding for live use, I haven't really heard one accomplish that yet. There are a lot of ways to make these things sound bad and only a couple of ways to make them sound good.
i think if you need auto pitch correction you're not a bassist who sings, but a bassist who "sings"... 
It reminds me of guitar players at showing up at a blues jam with a guitar in one hand and their "talent" board in the other.
mpm32,
Where did you get it? I've been waiting for someone to make one available. One of the big internet stores told me it won't be in until January.
Where did you get it? I've been waiting for someone to make one available. One of the big internet stores told me it won't be in until January.
