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Before I buy a Carvin: some advice / feedback?

Hey All,
I have my search for a new jazz bass down to the G & L JB-2 and Carvin B-40. The specs are very similar and I got great feedback before from this forum on these instruments. My concern in buying the Carvin is that I've never played a B40 - I have played (and loved) teh JB-2.
Even if I buy the JB-2 online, if I don't like ti for any reason I can ship it back. Does Carvin offer thft reassuracnwe or because it's custom made, if I buy it, I keep it?

I think they're both fine instruments, tut to consdier the Carvin I could use some feedback from experienced owners and players.

As always, thanks.
Dave & Hadar
 
Well... If you're springing for either I would hope you research them a bit more. I only say this because Carvin is well known for their generous 10 day refund policy.

Why the B40 and not the SB4000? JB-2 is more than either one right?

One thing to consider - JB-2 has 60's pickup spacing, the Carvin has 70's spacing. This will have tonal impact...

Personally I'd buy the Carvin, B40 or SB4000 (well, SB5000 for me...)
 
Thanks for the feedback. Why the B40? I was directed there by someone who knows basses andknew I was looking.I'll absolutley check out Carvin's option and the sB 4000.

I'm a retired college professor, pretty good at research but do miss a LOT of details on any page or web site - you see, Hadar is my Seeing Eye dog and his reading is really bad thougfh.

I GREATLY appreciate your inptu and will follow up.

Thanks again,
Dave & Hadar
 
I have the B4 as a fretless, which is basically the same exact bass as the B40 except that my bridge pickup is in the 60's position. Also, this was before the J99A alnico pickups were being installed so I put in DiMarzio Model Js and I honestly could not ask for a better fretless bass. Sound and playability beat or match anything I've played out there.

I'm sure the B40 with the new alnico pickups could do wonders for you; it's really a matter of whether or not you want the 60's or 70's bridge pickup tone I think. Playability should be excellent on it, and same goes for the SB4000.

As far as Carvin's return policy goes, it is top notch - no questions asked within 10 days.
 
I agree with the question regarding the SB4000 over the B40. I love Carvin Basses and own 2 of their 6 strings still. Personally I would go with the SB4000 and get it built the way you want. Lots of options and if you get it and don't like it, you can return it as long as you do it in the return window.
I have a number of Carvin amps and Cabinets and am very happy with them. I actually have several configurations I can use that contain different cabinets, one of which uses Carvin PA cabinets as part of the rig. IMHO the newer Carvin amps and speakers are as good or better than a lot of rigs costing a lot more.
Good luck!
 
Unless you keep whatever you buy for the rest of your life, you would be better off with the G&L when it is time to sell.
I have owned both G&L and Carvin. I actually felt that the Carvin was a better made instrument. Although when I sold it, it only brought about 50% of what I paid. When I sold my G&L I got about a 90% return.
 
Hey All,
I have my search for a new jazz bass down to the G & L JB-2 and Carvin B-40. The specs are very similar and I got great feedback before from this forum on these instruments. My concern in buying the Carvin is that I've never played a B40 - I have played (and loved) teh JB-2.
Even if I buy the JB-2 online, if I don't like ti for any reason I can ship it back. Does Carvin offer thft reassuracnwe or because it's custom made, if I buy it, I keep it?

I think they're both fine instruments, tut to consdier the Carvin I could use some feedback from experienced owners and players.

As always, thanks.
Dave & Hadar


I just received my first Carvin B40, 14 days ago. I'm very happy with my B40. In fact, I want another one (but I also want a SB4000 :D).

But if you've already played the JB-2 and you know you love it; then maybe going with the JB-2 would be best path, right now. You already know you love it. Just a suggestion.


Try to find a way to audition a B40.

If by some chance you're in the Charlotte, North Carolina area......you're more than welcome to come and play my B40, so you have a basis for comparison. Feeel free to PM me if you are.
 
I had a G&L Tribute L2000, and it was a very satisfactory guitar (until I got a Precision, anyhow). It replaced a Carvin L20 that was not a good fit for me. The B4 has a more "Fenderish" shape, but I haven't tried one. For me, the 24-fret neck on the Carvin made it difficult to reach anything: when my right hand was where I wanted it, my left hand was 'way out there; when I pulled the neck in to accommodate my left hand, I couldn't find the sweet spot with my right. Your mileage will probably vary.

The Carvin had J99s in it, which I replaced with DiMarzio Model J's without much improvement. Once I got my P, of course, I understood that I should have been playing a Fender, all along!

Both Carvin and G&L were very nicely put together

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Had an LB75, replaced the PUPS with Lane Poor's. Nice sounding bass and decent playing too. One glaring problem I had with it was that I was forever having to adjust the neck, it was always moving on me.

I like my action LOW and so I'd take it to a tech to straighten it out and within a couple of months it had moved again. I know that some of this is normal probably but I've never seen this to this degree with any other bass I've owned.
 
Unless you keep whatever you buy for the rest of your life, you would be better off with the G&L when it is time to sell.
I have owned both G&L and Carvin. I actually felt that the Carvin was a better made instrument. Although when I sold it, it only brought about 50% of what I paid. When I sold my G&L I got about a 90% return.

Yes. If I were to buy Carvin I would only buy used, as they tend to have poor resale value. This doesn't seem to be quite as much of an issue with basses, but would still be a strong consideration for me.

If you buy used you get to try it anyway, assuming it's a face to face sale. I'd go G&L myself, but I'm a bit anti-Carvin due to past experiences (non bass related).
 
Unless you keep whatever you buy for the rest of your life, you would be better off with the G&L when it is time to sell.
I have owned both G&L and Carvin. I actually felt that the Carvin was a better made instrument. Although when I sold it, it only brought about 50% of what I paid. When I sold my G&L I got about a 90% return.

Well, I certainly would agree with you about Carvin resale prices for most of their stuff - I picked up a sharp Koa fretless LB76 for 450 bucks a few years back!

But - The new B series and particularly the SB series are quite desirable basses, and seem to be holding their resale values much much better. A nicely equipped SB4000 comes in at 1000 bucks, and could be resold for 850 if its clean. The key is to not put on questionable finishes IMO - I can't even begin to describe how many times I've seen Carvins with transparent purple and gold hardware, which is a buzzkill for me and many others I would assume.
 
If you get a carvin I would highly suggest you get the five peice neck option. Their one peice necks are in my experience weak. They have trouble getting near dead straight neck without maxing the truss rod out. I had got a real nice looking used seethru green, neck thru body, carvin yrs ago & I ending up getting rid of it cause of its weak neck. I used Rotosound Swing66 std gauge 45-130 and other similiar tension strings. The 40-125 gauge set worked better for low string action truss rod wise, but any well made bass and certainly in the carvins price range. Should have stronger necks then that for single peice maple. And Ive read of many also having truss rod issues for five stringers with the single peice neck. The five peice neck is much stronger and better choice imo.

On the plus side the bass was one of the very few whose low B string sounded really good to me. The 2band active eq was good though Ive had better in some imports by other mfg. Fretwork and built with the exception of neck strength was all excellent. I wish it had been a 5 peice neck one. I might still own it if it had been.
 
The differences between the Carvin B40 and Carvin SB4000 are in the neck shape (the latter has a thicker neck front to back, but same width at the nut) and the body shape. They both have a '70s-position bridge pickup, whereas the G&L JB-2 has a '60s-position bridge pickup.

The B40's body shape is closer to that of a P-Bass, just like the G&L JB-2, whereas the SB4000 is like a take on the Jazz Bass body shape.

I personally would go with a B40 over either the SB4000 or the JB-2, due to the fact that my fretless B40's neck is the nicest I've ever played (mind you, I haven't played any super high-end boutique basses), and there are a larger variety of options with Carvin than with G&L.

G&L, however, has a wider variety of options for neck shapes, which may be more important to you than having a variety of other options.

Ultimately, it is up to you, and you honestly can NOT go wrong when you have to make the choice between a US G&L JB-2 and a Carvin B40.

I am sure that you can get a very good return policy on any G&L you get, and other people have spoken of how brilliant Carvin's is.
 
If you get a carvin I would highly suggest you get the five peice neck option. Their one peice necks are in my experience weak. They have trouble getting near dead straight neck without maxing the truss rod out. I had got a real nice looking used seethru green, neck thru body, carvin yrs ago & I ending up getting rid of it cause of its weak neck. I used Rotosound Swing66 std gauge 45-130 and other similiar tension strings. The 40-125 gauge set worked better for low string action truss rod wise, but any well made bass and certainly in the carvins price range. Should have stronger necks then that for single peice maple. And Ive read of many also having truss rod issues for five stringers with the single peice neck. The five peice neck is much stronger and better choice imo.

On the plus side the bass was one of the very few whose low B string sounded really good to me. The 2band active eq was good though Ive had better in some imports by other mfg. Fretwork and built with the exception of neck strength was all excellent. I wish it had been a 5 peice neck one. I might still own it if it had been.


Well that's some interesting comments.

Oddly, I haven't heard or read any excessive problems with Carvin's necks being weak. Sure, there have been a few bad necks here and there, but by high and large Carvin owners don't have many problems with the bass necks. At least not from what I read and heard. I just received my B40 14 days ago, so it's too early for my persoanl experience to count. But so far the neck is very nice and stable. Especially considering that where I live (in the Charlotte, North Carolina area), we have drastic temperature shifts from morning to afternoon.....late afternoon to night. Often, 20-30 degree rises and drops in temperature. And the humidity is brutal right now. The winter gets dry and cold and the summer's hot and humid. This type of weather is brutal on bass and guitar necks.

So I'll have to keep a close eye on this B40 neck and see what happens.

Is it possible that your experience may speak more for the neck through basses? Because the B40 is a bolt-on four string. Not a neck through and it's not a five string.

Furthermore, you bought it used. So there's no telling what the previous user may have done to the bass or put the bass through.

Have you personally ever owned a B40, SB50 or SB5000?

Could you direct me to where you have read of these weak neck problems? I'd like to read up on this.


Seems to me you're a making blanket statement about all Carvin bass necks, which could very well be misleading and inaccurate. But who knows, maybe you're right. I'd like to read up on it.