+1
I was wondering the same thing
.It looks a bit like a Shoreline Gold Fender CS '59 P Bass that I had ...
... but maybe it's some kind of silver!?
Let's hope we get an answer soon
.
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Ben Lindsey Hot Rod Jazz Build
- Thread starter Scott McArron
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+1
I was wondering the same thing
.It looks a bit like a Shoreline Gold Fender CS '59 P Bass that I had ...
... but maybe it's some kind of silver!?
Let's hope we get an answer soon
.
+1
I was wondering the same thing
It looks a bit like a Shoreline Gold Fender CS '59 P Bass that I had ... but maybe it's some kind of silver!?
Let's hope we get an answer soon
See post #35
Scott im really digging the specs on your bass!
however i want to ask you why did you choose lollar pickups?
is that the only option he gave you or have you used these pickups in the past?
Please describe the difference between these and the nordies because so far i love the nordies on the deluxe and would really consider them on a project like this.
also why passive electronics? i have to admit that i have been playing alot of passive lately with the deluxe because of the great tone but i kick it into active when i do some slapping! Do you plan on using a outboard preamp or just passive 100% of the time?
Also does he do 5 stringers?
If its not to much to ask what did the total come up to? if you dont want to post it here in the forum feel free to pm me.
Man i shouldnt have looked into your posts!
however i want to ask you why did you choose lollar pickups?
is that the only option he gave you or have you used these pickups in the past?
Please describe the difference between these and the nordies because so far i love the nordies on the deluxe and would really consider them on a project like this.
also why passive electronics? i have to admit that i have been playing alot of passive lately with the deluxe because of the great tone but i kick it into active when i do some slapping! Do you plan on using a outboard preamp or just passive 100% of the time?
Also does he do 5 stringers?
If its not to much to ask what did the total come up to? if you dont want to post it here in the forum feel free to pm me.
Man i shouldnt have looked into your posts!
After talking with Ben about my tonal goals he highly recommended the Lollars. He really likes the Fralins as well, but thought that I'd really dig the Lollars. I've only heard ecstatic things about Lollars jazz pickups.
I've never had the pleasure of doing a comparison within the same bass. I know I love the Nordies, so I'm looking to go with something else sheerly out of curiosity and because Ben recommends them so highly (and also because he's not a Nordstrand dealer!
).I went passive just because I wanted this bass to really grasp that vintage vibe. My Lakland takes care of all my active and modern sounding needs. Even so, I only keep the Lakland around for the B string when it's necessary. I prefer the classic jazz bass for most of what I do.
Another reason, I'm just a ripped up jeans and t-shirt wearing, harley riding, muscle car driving, cigar smoking, whiskey drinking kind of a guy. I like things simple, but good. Comfortable and laid back. No bells, no whistles, no blue light specials. The vintage passive jazz just speaks to me. Very organic, not hyped.
I doubt I'll add an outboard pre. I don't like having to bring pedals to gigs with all their batteries and wall warts and whatnot. If I need more low end or high end I'll turn it up on the amp. I'm not against onboard preamps in the slightest, but I'll leave that for another bass down the road.
I don't see why he wouldn't build a 5 stringer, but I have no idea. You should give him a call about that. I'll PM you.
before you answerd me i was thinking about specs for my possible build and i said to myself active electronics would kinda remove the classic vibe, yes you are right, passive is the way to go.
However can you describe the difference between passive tone control and trebel bleed?
I first asked him if he would do a 5 string bass and he said why not!
This is what i have in mind
5 strings though!
However with a flamed maple top and/or tortoise (maybe a clear pick-guard)
im thinking Lollar, Nordies or Alleva Coppollo pups.
passive electronics and i think chrome hardware would look better.
No againg though, I wanna beat the heck out of it myself.
I emailed a kinda detailed specs of the bass but i cant seem to find it and im too lazy to type it again, but you get the idea.
What do you think?
However can you describe the difference between passive tone control and trebel bleed?
I first asked him if he would do a 5 string bass and he said why not!
This is what i have in mind
5 strings though!
However with a flamed maple top and/or tortoise (maybe a clear pick-guard)
im thinking Lollar, Nordies or Alleva Coppollo pups.
passive electronics and i think chrome hardware would look better.
No againg though, I wanna beat the heck out of it myself.
I emailed a kinda detailed specs of the bass but i cant seem to find it and im too lazy to type it again, but you get the idea.
What do you think?
Scott: Been thinking about your bass. Hate to confuse or throw gas on the fire, but I'd do Candy Apple Red ( or your original Hot Rod) long before I'd even consider Dakota, which is significantly darker and more your dad's Caddy or Lincoln than the pony car of your dreams, IMHO. Fortunately, you have the luxury of some time before Ben starts the build.
I thought about that too scott, check it:
either way looks great anyways just giving you some options.
by the way what radius did you pick?
That's a really nice color. You guys make some good points. One thing I don't like about the CAR is that it's too, well, candy-like. But it is more hot roddy than the dakota by a fair margin. The hot rod color, though, might be a little too toyish. I was thinking the dakota was just dark enough to be a little less like a toy.
Ben is already getting started on the body and neck this week, then he's taking a little time off and coming back to it in a couple more weeks. During the down time, he's going to send me some paint chips of some reds, like the CAR and dakota, so I can get a first hand look at exactly what it's going to look like. We'll see. I may scrap the "hot rod" theme and just go with whatever red appeals to me the most.
I went with the 10" radius. It's small enough to still feel somewhat vintage while allowing for a little better action and modern playability.
Just wanted to show a finish Ben did for me on a bass I built for a friend, it was a custom transparent color, REALLY beautiful in person...
The neck I sprayed myself but with Ben's "Gracie's" lacquer...Ben is a true craftsman and gentleman....the cool matching cord was made by TB'er Exaltbass who posted his orange bass above...
The neck I sprayed myself but with Ben's "Gracie's" lacquer...Ben is a true craftsman and gentleman....the cool matching cord was made by TB'er Exaltbass who posted his orange bass above...
Ben Lindsey
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Just wanted to show a finish Ben did for me on a bass I built for a friend, it was a custom transparent color, REALLY beautiful in person...
The neck I sprayed myself but with Ben's "Gracie's" lacquer...Ben is a true craftsman and gentleman....the cool matching cord was made by TB'er Exaltbass who posted his orange bass above...
Gorgeous color of red! Love it!
What I've got in my stable right now are a Fender American Vintage '75 RI with rosewood board and a Lakland 55-02 in Trans Amber. I just sold one of my favorite basses, a Fender 2010 American Deluxe 5-string with Nordstrand pickups. That bass sounded HOT! and the construction was impressive as well. The tightest neck pocket I've seen on any Fender bass. Definitely up there with Lulls and Sadowskys, minus the stock pickups and a few nit-picky things. Only sold that one because I'm starting to get back into 4 strings and just need the Lakland around for songs that I need a B string, and I much prefer the 35" scale for B strings.
The Fender '75 RI: I really like this bass, not gonna lie. Of course, I threw a set of Nordstrands in this one as well which significantly improved the sound. My plan was to buy this bass and paint the body red, like the bass I'm getting built. The problem was that when I got it, I found that the binding on it was a very off-white. Yuck, IMO! I had never seen that on this particular model before. Additionally, the neck pocket isn't as tight as I'd like and I'm a bit of a perfectionist.
The tone is very organic and pleasing with a somewhat muted high end (I string them up with nickels to tighten the low end and for the feel of the strings). It is very warm and has a very woody quality to it. With fresh strings, it's wonderful to slap around on. It oozes vintage feel and makes me feel like I'm playing with a real 70's band on stage.
In my rock band, the band leader commented on my wonderful P-bass, then went on to say how much he hated jazz basses because they don't have that full, rich sound of a good P. Then I broke him the bad news and told him it was a jazz bass.
You should've seen his face! So despite the 70's location of the bridge pickup, it still sounds big and rich and organic. Really cool, IMO!I've spent a couple of good months with this bass and, while I like it a LOT, it's not the bass that I'm totally satisfied with, so I've been in search of something that'll fill that 5% of void both tonally and aesthetically, hence the Ben Lindsey bass!
The Lakland 55-02: This bass is a swiss army knife of basses. I now only bring this bass to my soul/funk/r&b gigs with the casino band. At first, I thought it sounded a little generic, and it kinda does. It tries to do a lot: "Jack of all trades, master of none." But it really does those tones well enough in a band setting that only the pickiest of bassists in the audience would ever think a negative thought about it. My bands love it! And for $1050 or so on the used market, it's really hard to beat.
It has a fast playing board and a variety of tones in it. My only gripe is that there is far too much space between the body and strings (same gripe I have with Sadowskys without pick guards). I'm having a hard time getting used to this when I'm slapping and doing dance moves at the same time on stage. My snapping finger tends to get caught just slightly, just enough to slow me down and take me out of the pocket for a split second. I don't like having to concentrate on the technical aspects of bass playing while I'm in the moment. It should come naturally. But that's just me and this bass, YMMV.
Compared to my old Lull M5V, it's a world apart. Those Lulls are so fast playing it makes me wanna play Victor Wooten songs. In fact, when I first learned A Show of Hands, it was on the Lull. Now, I can't even attempt it on the Lakland. For a while, I thought I'd lost my chops. Then I went down to Mike's Shop and picked up one of his basses and there it was again! Like the day I learned it. So, it's really strange to me on the Lakland. I feel as though the left hand is really fast, but the right hand is hindered and slow (for slap passages, that is), if that makes sense, so they kind of fight each other. And I grew up slapping; to me, it's as natural as walking. Fingerstyle feels great though, so I have no complaints there. Since 98% of the music I play calls for fingerstyle, I'll be keeping this bass around for a while, probably until I can afford another Lull.
Anyways, right now it's just the Fender and the Lakland. When the Ben Lindsey bass comes in, I'll be selling the Fender. I want to keep it around long enough to compare the two, though. Maybe even do an A/B review. I'm very excited about this one, and hope that it's gonna be the one that sticks around for a few decades. It's nice to know that I'll be the sole owner and that it was custom built for me. In 15 or 20 years, it'll have a real sense of nostalgia to it, I think. I'm really eager to get this thing on stage!
