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Bergantino AE112

#3
I've had my LMII/Berg AE112 for a week now. It's an awesome combination. I've used it in two jam sessions so far, one jazz, and one blues. I used my 6 string fretless for the jazz jam and was playing with 1 guitar, 2 saxes, and a drummer. I used my 4 string for the blues jam and we had 2 guitars, drummer, one harp, and two singers.

As far as volume is concerned, not an issue. Most of the comments were about the articulation. You can hear every note clear as a bell with great tonal range. I haven't gigged with it yet, but will be some time in July. I have no doubt it will handle the 100-150 person bars we typically play.

I bought mine at Club Bass and the combination was Dave's suggestion based on my needs. I tried the AE210, but prefered AE112 over the AE210. My original intension was to buy 2 AE112's, one to keep at my drummers, one at home, and then stack them for gigs. I decided to hold off on the second cab for now to see if I really need it. Being so light, it's easy to transport.

Excellent service from Club Bass by the way.
 
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Moe45673 said:
It's actually my main rig :hmm:

We'll see about upgrading when I join a band that needs more power. Until recently, I've been using a Yorkville BM200T, and that was fine for my needs, so I'm assuming the LMII will be more than I'm used to
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It's my main rig as well. I was coming off a Peavey Basic 112 (50 watts) that I even gigged with. The LMII will be more than enough.
 
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Moe45673 said:
It's actually my main rig :hmm:

We'll see about upgrading when I join a band that needs more power. Until recently, I've been using a Yorkville BM200T, and that was fine for my needs, so I'm assuming the LMII will be more than I'm used to
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That will be a great rig. The AE/LMII match-up is a very good one. Just remember that a small 112 cab and the LMII running at lower power at 8ohms is not going to knock a wall down. However, if you eventually add another AE112, that rig will be enough to do virtually any gig. It will be exponentially louder, deeper and punchier than your single 112, due to the cab coupling, the extra box, and the increase in power.

The LMII through a relatively large 4ohm cab, or two 8ohm cabs is a very loud, clean, full sounding amp.

The single 112 will surely get you by for a while. Save up for that second one... you will be very happy!
 
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KJung said:
That will be a great rig. The AE/LMII match-up is a very good one. Just remember that a small 112 cab and the LMII running at lower power at 8ohms is not going to knock a wall down. However, if you eventually add another AE112, that rig will be enough to do virtually any gig. It will be exponentially louder, deeper and punchier than your single 112, due to the cab coupling, the extra box, and the increase in power.

The LMII through a relatively large 4ohm cab, or two 8ohm cabs is a very loud, clean, full sounding amp.

The single 112 will surely get you by for a while. Save up for that second one... you will be very happy!
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On this note, an opportunity has come up to buy a used HT210. How do you think this will match up with my AE112? My only concern is the weight (64lbs).
 
#10
Fajah said:
On this note, an opportunity has come up to buy a used HT210. How do you think this will match up with my AE112? My only concern is the weight (64lbs).
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That's not my favorite Berg cab. It's a very different design than the current models.... very deep bass, very polite mids, very hi fi upper mid and top end, and low SPL. And, as you point out, REALLY heavy.

It's a killer cab if you are looking for that very pure, hi fi, studio monitor type thing though. Almost the mirror image of the mid present, tight, aggressive AE line to my ears.

I wouldn't think that would be the best match-up... very different tone and voicing and SPL.
 
#11
So..... since I am facing a similar decision, how would a pair of AE 112s compare to a pair of AE210s? Would the 210s be significantly louder with my Markbass? I assume two AE210s would be punchier but two AE112s would be smoother and deeper???
 
#15
Just a quick follow up on the LMII/AE112 mini rig for last night was my first gig using it. We play a mix of a blues, classic rock, and some R&B. It was a bar gig with a max capacity of about 100 people and it was good turnout for a thursday night summer gig. Due to circumstances, our sound check sort of on the fly, so we had a friend and fellow musician placed at the back of the room giving us signals for volume levels.

Up until last night, I never had to have the volume higher than about 10 o'clock for rehearsals. He gave me the "more bass" signal and I cranked the LMII up to 12 o'clock. Wow, this thing just came to life with no change in tone whatsoever. Very clean and articulate with wonderful tonal range.

There's no question that this setup will suffice for most of the gigs that we play so I don't feel any need to rush out and get a second cab at this time. I will pay Club Bass a visit to see what two stacked AE112's are like, now that I have a realistic frame of reference.
 
#16
My son heard my sa450 AE410 the other day and is working hard and saving up for an LMII and AE210. The AE112 is significantly cheaper than the AE210 though, would that be a more sensible approach?

He definitely wont always have dad to help him shift this, so its going to have to squeeze into any space in any transport he can get into. Which makes me think he might be better off with the ae112.

Having said that its a bunch of youngsters playing rock, loudly...

Would it be enough?
 
#18
51m0n said:
My son heard my sa450 AE410 the other day and is working hard and saving up for an LMII and AE210. The AE112 is significantly cheaper than the AE210 though, would that be a more sensible approach?

He definitely wont always have dad to help him shift this, so its going to have to squeeze into any space in any transport he can get into. Which makes me think he might be better off with the ae112.

Having said that its a bunch of youngsters playing rock, loudly...

Would it be enough?
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Play rock loudly in the your basement.....the AE112 would definitely be loud enough in my opinion. Playing loud rock in a gig.....difficult to say except for fact that it's probably never loud enough when it come to youngsters playing rock :) It would also probably look physically wimpy to them because it's quite small. A breeze to transport though.

We're in our early 50's so there's a different perpective as to what loud is. Having kids myself and friends who have kids in rock bands, the general consensus is that they usually are too loud.
 
#19
Fajah said:
Play rock loudly in the your basement.....the AE112 would definitely be loud enough in my opinion. Playing loud rock in a gig.....difficult to say except for fact that it's probably never loud enough when it come to youngsters playing rock :) It would also probably look physically wimpy to them because it's quite small. A breeze to transport though.

We're in our early 50's so there's a different perpective as to what loud is. Having kids myself and friends who have kids in rock bands, the general consensus is that they usually are too loud.
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Yeah, couldn't agree more.

I'm all for him saving up the cash, but I think the house could do without another ae410 - thats just too much space. Plus if he gets a mini rig I can borrow it for rehearsals.

And yeah they are way too loud for everyone's good :)
 

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