Double Bass Bergantino for Walter Woods

[Velobass]

Hi everyone. I’ve been using my Walter Woods Electracoustic green light with a Wizzy 10 for quite some time. I was reading that Walters amps pair up really well with Bergantino cabs. Is there any out one out there using this set up currently? Probably looking to get a 12 inch cabinet as I do mostly play doublebass. Any suggestions?

Dave

 

[Ric Vice]

Walter Woods amps pair up with anything out there. Shouldn't be a problem. I've used mine with all kinds of different cabinets.

Sorry I don't have any direct experience.

 

[Keithunem]

Walter Woods amps pair up with anything out there. Shouldn't be a problem. I've used mine with all kinds of different cabinets.

Sorry I don't have any direct experience.

 

[Keithunem]

I have a couple of Berg Reference 112’s and they sound exceptional with all my heads ( GK, Aguilar, Mesa, Eden, as well as Bergantino Forte)!

 

[macteacher]

I used a blue light ultra and a berg HT112 with an ex112 for bigger gigs. the combo was awesome for both upright and electric... I played an alembic series one and the combo really brought out all of the possibilities. also light travel..

highly reccomended!

 

[Ric Vice]

Since you already own one, I think that would be a good investment. Bergantino
Cabinets are equlavent quality builds to Walter's amplifiers

 

[Low Class]

I played the WW/Berg rig(s) for many years. The WW green light does not have enough power for the Bergs. If you're happy with the Wizzy 10 you might consider the Wizzy 12 in 4 ohm. Or if ultimate tone is the goal find a EA vl110. Matches incredibly well with the green light.

 

[Ric Vice]

I played the WW/Berg rig(s) for many years. The WW green light does not have enough power for the Bergs. If you're happy with the Wizzy 10 you might consider the Wizzy 12 in 4 ohm.

Interesting, I forgot that the Green Light is two steps down in RMS power from the Electroacoustic Ultra (Blue Light) that I own. That would make a big difference. My Woods Ultra would drive the EA VL-200 (which was a power suck) where my MI-400-8
would not.

 

[Keithunem]

I played the WW/Berg rig(s) for many years. The WW green light does not have enough power for the Bergs. If you're happy with the Wizzy 10 you might consider the Wizzy 12 in 4 ohm.

I don’t know how efficient your Bergs were, but the newer HDN112 and my Reference112’s have sensitivity at 98db...while they take all the power I can send their way, I can “heat them with a candle” if necessary.

 

[Low Class]

Interesting, I forgot that the Green Light is two steps down in RMS power from the Electroacoustic Ultra (Blue Light) that I own. That would make a big difference. My Woods Ultra would drive the EA VL-200 (which was a power suck) where my MI-400-8
would not.

Exactly! A green light WW with a Berg 12 sounds thin and anemic. I actually love the tone of the green light over the blue, but it needs a 4 ohm load on it to sound its best. It's also less $ and can be made to be extremely easy to transport.

 

[Keithunem]

Exactly! A green light WW with a Berg 12 sounds thin and anemic. I actually love the tone of the green light over the blue, but it needs a 4 ohm load on it to sound its best.

LC...I’m curious how many watts the green light WW pushes at 8 ohms and if you’re talking about an older Berg or a newer more efficient Berg that I mentioned. The reason I am asking is because while I have several amps that have gobs of headroom Forte, Ag DB751,etc) I have run one of my Ref112’s with a Eden WTX264 very successfully...it only produces around 165 watts at 8 ohms...just curious.

 

[Low Class]

LC...I’m curious how many watts the green light WW pushes at 8 ohms and if you’re talking about an older Berg or a newer more efficient Berg that I mentioned. The reason I am asking is because while I have several amps that have gobs of headroom Forte, Ag DB751,etc) I have run one of my Ref112’s with a Eden WTX264 very successfully...it only produces around 165 watts at 8 ohms...just curious.

The green light is 300 @ 8, 450 @ 4ohms. The HT112ER's is what I used with my WW's which is the same cab as the Ref12. I've also had the Ref12/210 setup with other amps. The OP is asking what's the cab for his WW green light and am giving my suggestions based on experience with that equipment. If he was using different equipment I might give a different suggestion IF I had experience with that equipment.

Specs are good the have, but they don't always reflect in the real world how equipment reacts to each other. Some amps work great with some cabs and not so great with others, and until you hear it in real life you never really know.

 

[Ric Vice]

As an example of that, the Walter Woods Electroacoustic Ultra in combination with a EA-VL 208 worked well, but the Woods combined with a Audiokinesis TC-112 it worked magnificently. It was louder, had better midrange timbre, and a better defined punchy low end.

 

[Low Class]

As an example of that, the Walter Woods Electroacoustic Ultra in combination with a EA-VL 208 worked well, but the Woods combined with a Audiokinesis TC-112 it worked magnificently. It was louder, had better midrange timbre, and a better defined punchy low end.

Yeah I was never overly impressed with the Ultra with my VL208's, but I could see how some would like it.

With all of my WW and cab combo experiments the Ultra worked best with the Berg HT112 or HT112ER's and tone wise the green light worked best with the VL110 pair. That wasn't the loudest rig but the tone would just make you melt.

 

[Keithunem]

The green light is 300 @ 8, 450 @ 4ohms. The HT112ER's is what I used with my WW's which is the same cab as the Ref12. I've also had the Ref12/210 setup with other amps. The OP is asking what's the cab for his WW green light and am giving my suggestions based on experience with that equipment. If he was using different equipment I might give a different suggestion IF I had experience with that equipment.

Specs are good the have, but they don't always reflect in the real world how equipment reacts to each other. Some amps work great with some cabs and not so great with others, and until you hear it in real life you never really know.

I get it, thanks...KT

 

[Velobass]

I have used my green light Woods with a Acme B2, which is a really power hungry speaker, and have gotten a great sound. I currently have a Markbass 2x10 cabinet as well as my whizzy 10, and the Wood sounds great through the Markbass for electric, just not too sure if I like the upright sound through it on gigs where I have to double.There is a shop about an hour from me that carries Bergantino, so I might have to go and check them out for myself. Even though the woods is only 300 into 8ohms, it seems to pack quite a punch!

 

[Low Class]

I have used my green light Woods with a Acme B2, which is a really power hungry speaker, and have gotten a great sound. I currently have a Markbass 2x10 cabinet as well as my whizzy 10, and the Wood sounds great through the Markbass for electric, just not too sure if I like the upright sound through it on gigs where I have to double.There is a shop about an hour from me that carries Bergantino, so I might have to go and check them out for myself. Even though the woods is only 300 into 8ohms, it seems to pack quite a punch!

That's the best way to know for sure. You might consider ordering a Wizzy 12 and compare before you make a decision. You can either walk away from the Berg or send the Wizzy back.

 

[Velobass]

That’s probably what I’ll do. A friend of mine is an EA dealer, so I can check out the Whizzy 12 at his place. Not sure if I should get the 4ohm, or 2 8ohm cabs to have the option of running 2 of them for doubling gigs.

 

[Ric Vice]

That’s probably what I’ll do. A friend of mine is an EA dealer, so I can check out the Whizzy 12 at his place. Not sure if I should get the 4ohm, or 2 8ohm cabs to have the option of running 2 of them for doubling gigs.

In All my experiences, where I tried dual cabinet rigs, they didn't sound that great. I had several pairs of various matching cabinets and frankly, they would feedback easier, than a single larger cabinet. Just my take. I had a pair of EA VL 108's and with the Woods MI-400-8, they were very prone

to feeding back. It's possible that the Wizzy's, which are a newer design, won't have issues with that. It's also possible that the VL 108's just couldn't handle the Woods which put out 600 watts at 4 ohms.

 

[Low Class]

That’s probably what I’ll do. A friend of mine is an EA dealer, so I can check out the Whizzy 12 at his place. Not sure if I should get the 4ohm, or 2 8ohm cabs to have the option of running 2 of them for doubling gigs.

If your EA dealer friend has an EA NL112 check that out also. That's what I'm using now and it is by far the best EA cab and best 12 cab I've had. It is finicky about what amps it likes however and have no experience with it and a WW. Typically I've found that amps that are not ICEmodule powered works better with them, so the WW may be a good match. If the WW does match up well you won't find a better sounding cab.