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Bergantino HS210

Thanks, KJung!

I'm moving from a Schroeder 21012L, a 410L, via an aborted attempt to get some DR Bass cabs (VERY long story!).

I luckily ended up with an HS410 and - compared to what I've had in the past - it was like someone had lifted a blanket from my cab. Even with the horn rolled off, as I prefer. I've never heard anything like it. Amazing.

I'm not a Hi-Fi guy, but I do like warmth and definition and this cab is in a different league. Everyone in the band noticed right away.

I'm moving to the HS210s because they have a height advantage (I'll still be stacking them 'correctly' mind you), and, from what I've read, an added bonus may be that the bottom end may be a little rounder. If not, no problem as the HS410 is warm enough.

It's amazing how Jim has managed to get that kind of tone out of cabs so shallow!

In an ideal world, I'd like an NV215 or NV610, but they cost an arm and a leg over here. These cabs will be a great compromise, I'm sure!

Not that 'Berg' and 'Compromise' should be mentioned in the same sentence... :D
 
Thanks, KJung!

I'm moving from a Schroeder 21012L, a 410L, via an aborted attempt to get some DR Bass cabs (VERY long story!).

I luckily ended up with an HS410 and - compared to what I've had in the past - it was like someone had lifted a blanket from my cab. Even with the horn rolled off, as I prefer. I've never heard anything like it. Amazing.

I'm not a Hi-Fi guy, but I do like warmth and definition and this cab is in a different league. Everyone in the band noticed right away.

I'm moving to the HS210s because they have a height advantage (I'll still be stacking them 'correctly' mind you), and, from what I've read, an added bonus may be that the bottom end may be a little rounder. If not, no problem as the HS410 is warm enough.

It's amazing how Jim has managed to get that kind of tone out of cabs so shallow!

In an ideal world, I'd like an NV215 or NV610, but they cost an arm and a leg over here. These cabs will be a great compromise, I'm sure!

Not that 'Berg' and 'Compromise' should be mentioned in the same sentence... :D


Cool! I too like the HS410 MUCH better than the Schro 410L... similar tight, punchy voicing, but the HS is SO much more even sounding from the low mids all the way through the treble. VERY nice! Two HS210's should sound quite similar to the HS410, and it sounds like having the stack a little higher will be a positive for you. Cool!
 
I would agree that 2 x Gjr's could be fine and would put out more volume than any single 210, but a single Gjr. versus an HT210s... not in my experience. I just feel those GJrIII's were horrible, and were the only cabs I've ever had 'fart' at low volumes with even a touch of low end. IMO. I liked the tone a lot, just not the performance regarding volume. I believe that's the same cab as the redhead combo, which was also awful IMO.

+1

A friend turned me away from the Gjr.'s for similar complaints.


As for the HT210s, I'd definitely think the negative responses to the HT210s probably stem from its power hungry nature. My experience with the HT210s is the farthest thing from negative, however. It is a pristine, deep, wide sounding cab, and matching it with a more mid-prominent head makes it absolutely killer, in my experience. I played a gig in a room last weekend that would usually require creative eq'ing to get any sort of articulation. It's a larger odd shaped hall, with, in the nicest terms, "muddy" acoustic qualities. The "S" handled it with ease, and I even received a few compliments on how articulate (and clean!) my tone was.

The HS210 is a completely different beast, in my understanding, but if it is like anything Mr. Bergantino has made or is making, it is a killer cab.
 
I would agree that 2 x Gjr's could be fine and would put out more volume than any single 210, but a single Gjr. versus an HT210s... not in my experience. I just feel those GJrIII's were horrible, and were the only cabs I've ever had 'fart' at low volumes with even a touch of low end. IMO. I liked the tone a lot, just not the performance regarding volume. I believe that's the same cab as the redhead combo, which was also awful IMO.

Something else we agree on, except I hated the tone of that nasty, scratchy, fibreglass-domed tweeter - hideous, and WAY too loud for the performance of the cab (or the Redhead).

Cheers,
Cameron
 
I would agree that 2 x Gjr's could be fine and would put out more volume than any single 210, but a single Gjr. versus an HT210s... not in my experience. I just feel those GJrIII's were horrible, and were the only cabs I've ever had 'fart' at low volumes with even a touch of low end. IMO. I liked the tone a lot, just not the performance regarding volume. I believe that's the same cab as the redhead combo, which was also awful IMO.


I meant a single Jr. beats the HT210S in low end and overall volume.

I had one of each in the rehearsal studio. I could hear myself w/ the Jr. and had more low end, and the HT210S didn't cut the mustard. The HT210S sounds better to me when I can hear it though - esp the tweeter.
 
I meant a single Jr. beats the HT210S in low end and overall volume.

I had one of each in the rehearsal studio. I could hear myself w/ the Jr. and had more low end, and the HT210S didn't cut the mustard. The HT210S sounds better to me when I can hear it though - esp the tweeter.

The Jr. definitely has more mid response, and higher SPL. But man, put some watts into that HT210s and it's no contest.

If you dig the Jr's, that's cool. I was actually disappointed in the performance of that cab (given how much I liked the GIII 410). I do love the GIII, but just found the GIII Jr. very weak in true low end and absolute volume.

I guess I can see if you were only putting, for example, a couple hundred watts into each one and not really pushing the volume, that the GIII Jr. could actually sound more present and forward, and louder at the same setting. Other than that... not so much.
 
The Jr. definitely has more mid response, and higher SPL. But man, put some watts into that HT210s and it's no contest.

If you dig the Jr's, that's cool. I was actually disappointed in the performance of that cab (given how much I liked the GIII 410). I do love the GIII, but just found the GIII Jr. very weak in true low end and absolute volume.

I guess I can see if you were only putting, for example, a couple hundred watts into each one and not really pushing the volume, that the GIII Jr. could actually sound more present and forward, and louder at the same setting. Other than that... not so much.

Same studio, same band, same time. Rock music - guitar, bass, drums, vocals.

Mike Lull M4V and Ashdown ABM500 (older one w/ 500W, not 575).

My single 8 omh Jr. was louder and had more booty than my 4 ohm HT210S.

We must just be coming from entirely different musical situations to hear this so differently. In this context, there was just no question...the band (and I) couldn't hear me sufficiently w/ the Berg, but one Jr. cut the mustard. Is this really that surprising given the relative size of the boxes?

Anyway, I use the HT/EX stack now and have never had any volume problems with that, although the booty is only "sufficient".
 
HI

Im my opinion, I think its the best 2x10 on the market. Ive owned and gig two of them. One at a time or two stacked up. Have used an Epifani UL502, Sadowsky SA200 tube head or '67 Bassman. Just sounded amazingly tight, defined, plenty of bottem. Plus, they are shallow, not too heavy and can easily fit in the backseat of any car. My only complaint to Jim B. is that they arent available 4ohm. Damn!!

Do not hesitate!!!

Rob