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best modern tube amp.

#82
Muziekschuur said:
It could be useful to use a lowerpowered tube amp these days. But 100 watts needs some neodynium drivers if you'd want to keep up with a band.
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Who told you that? The magnet has nothing to do with whether it'll keep up with a band or not. I used a 100w amp into an 810 with alnico magnets for a decade and always kept up with a band.
 
#83
Neo magnets enabled some engineering stuff to be done that allows greater xmax and sensitivity without other compromise. Non-neo can get the sensitivity though other compromise though (like size an weight). Once you are humping about an 8x10, the weight difference between 100w and 200w isn't such a big deal.
 
#85
Muziekschuur said:
It could be useful to use a lowerpowered tube amp these days. But 100 watts needs some neodynium drivers if you'd want to keep up with a band.

B'boom, do you play in a band?
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Yes, I play with a band . And yes, I connect my Basset Hound in loudspeaker neodyme ( Mesa-Boogie Scout radiator 15" or Schroeder 21012L). This stack is enough powerful for rehearsals and concerts in clubs. For outdoor concerts, I use recently the pre-amplifier "Monique" (made by Jule Amps) + an amplifier QSC 850RMX + the Schroeder cab, to have a more important reserve of volume/ headroom.
 
#87
Mr. Foxen said:
Neo magnets enabled some engineering stuff to be done that allows greater xmax and sensitivity without other compromise. Non-neo can get the sensitivity though other compromise though (like size an weight). Once you are humping about an 8x10, the weight difference between 100w and 200w isn't such a big deal.
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Wasn't Eminence also able to build a non-lite version of the Kappa without the Neo? With 100W, most drivers should still handle it comfortably without going beyond their XMax.
 
#90
johnk_10 said:
IMO, i think the biggest reason for that is because the CL is quite a bit cheaper, and i actually see more VR's used on TV shows and concerts than i do CL's.
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The CL also had a 10 or 11 year head start on the VR and there's a lot more of them out there than VR's.

Alex, Eminence never made a non-lite version of their neo drivers. The whole reason they could make them like that was neo.

Mr. F, while you are correct, they're certainly not necessary to have a loud rig with 100w.
 
#94
Muziekschuur said:
The SVT is not in question here.... As being bad, or something else.
There is Tube technology out there wich is lightweight and has modern features... This thread is about that. And not about proven reliable stuff.... It's sooooo off topic...
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Well this thread is about modern tube amps, so SVT's are probly the most valid. Unless you're taking just about the new tech advances etc...
But, really, the amount of times you actually NEED to change tubes, lights & things are not that important to me.
Any amp, should go for a 'check up' every few yrs, & tubes need changing much less than that (or should).

& what's this stuff about needing NEO speakers to get loud???
That's got me flummoxed :-0
 
#95
JimmyM said:
The CL also had a 10 or 11 year head start on the VR and there's a lot more of them out there than VR's.

Alex, Eminence never made a non-lite version of their neo drivers. The whole reason they could make them like that was neo.

Mr. F, while you are correct, they're certainly not necessary to have a loud rig with 100w.
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My bad. Just checked the specs, damn, those Kappalite LFs are crazy! 9mm Xmax.
 
#96
Im really late on this thread, from what i can discern, this guy wants to talk about newer model amps using newer technology, not everybodys' tried and true, industry standard, back line, discontinued, boutique, handwired clone, and pretty much everything else, haha! From what i saw, i think the vb3 and the laney fit the bill the best
 
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#99
The new tube amp of today can be made with a switching mode power supply. Wich means the amplifier is light.

The new tube amp of today can be made with a microchip in the box doing auto bias and warn you when a tube goes out. And shut down a tube pair or the whole amp before the power section can destroy it self.

This means a bass amp can be (almost) as light as a regular SS bass amp. And it will only take a few tubes to be up and running again as the amp itself will tell you if something is wrong with the tubes.

Current tube designs only give us this tube protection system. The switch mode powersupply is currently only available in the Peavey VB-MA (Mark Anthony, bass player Chickenfoot)...

I thought with current high sensitivity speakers 100 watt tube heads would stay clean somewhat longer meaning a 100 watter would suffice for most if not all gigs.... But I am probably wrong?

I've opened up this old thread as I thought at the time changes in amp design would happen a tad faster then they do.... But perhaps changes in tube design will happen a tad faster now...
 

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