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Best practice regimen

Hey all. First I want to say what an awesome forum this is, full of amazing and helpful people! Question for the group….lately I've been trying to up my game skill-wise. I was taking private lessons for a bit and that helped a lot, but now I'd like to see what I can do on my own without paying for it. I've tried one of the online bass lesson sites before (Scott's Bass Lessons or whatever it's called) and didn't really get a lot out of it.

I guess what I'm asking is what works for you guys to improve skill-wise, without going the paid lesson route? I'm trying to practice daily and right now I'm just working on the songs that we do in my band. I would consider myself an intermediate player. Thanks!
 
What skill do you want to improve? Without the answer to that, you are not going to get a solid answer.

Sight reading - Find Etudes and read them (with metronome; adjust speeds as needed)
Speed/Dexterity - Scale/Chord Exercises
Performance Skills - Go Perform
Rhythm - Learn how to properly count rhythms and use a metronome
Improv - Learn Music Theory; run through chord charts outlining the chords and modal scales you might use for each chord; Run the songs and improv lines

Those are very basic not fully written out recommendations intended to show just how different the answer is depending on your goal. You should be asking what your goal is for any practice/lesson (structured private lessons or otherwise).
 
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Thanks for the response. Speed and dexterity are for sure important. I'm going from basically being a "one finger" player to using all the fingers, which the private lessons for sure helped, but I want to get even better at that. Music theory is another thing I want to learn a lot more about. I also want to learn other places on the fretboard to play the patterns I play. I've heard people call the first 3 or 4 frets the "money makers". That's where I seem to do a lot of my playing, but I think there are easier spots on the fretboard to play a lot of stuff.
 
Thanks for the response. Speed and dexterity are for sure important. I'm going from basically being a "one finger" player to using all the fingers, which the private lessons for sure helped, but I want to get even better at that. Music theory is another thing I want to learn a lot more about. I also want to learn other places on the fretboard to play the patterns I play. I've heard people call the first 3 or 4 frets the "money makers". That's where I seem to do a lot of my playing, but I think there are easier spots on the fretboard to play a lot of stuff.
Mastering your fretboard opens up a lot of doors, and will save you money on any future lessons. If you come in knowing all your note names and musical alphabet we can skip that part and really get into the meaty stuff that is harder to learn solo. Your goal should be to know every note, on every fret, on every string. You can pick any random spot on your bass and know what note you're playing.

There are plenty of videos and articles out there, but here's one method I find very useful to learn your entire fretboard:

Take a sheet of regular notebook paper and draw four vertical lines. These are your strings, and the blue horizontal lines are your frets. Draw a single horizontal line at the top, which marks your nut. On the margin, you can draw the circular fret markers (typically at frets 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, etc.) for reference. Once you have done this there are two approaches:

The first is to simply write the name of every natural note (ABCEDFG). IE mark your open E string, write F on the 1st fret, G on the 3rd fret, etc. Continue until you've filled in the entire neck with as many frets as your bass has, or 24, which is the most you see on standard basses. Once you've done that, draw a fresh blank diagram and do all the sharps and flats. Finally, combine the two and map out the entire fretboard. I find doing it in phases like this helps reinforce things, whereas if you just write it all at once you get on autopilot and stop really referencing the bass as much as just remembering your alphabet.

The second method is to pick a single note and fill out your diagram with only that note. For example, draw every C on your bass. Then, add every G, and now you have a root and fifth you can look at to see all the different patterns they form.

Once you can do this, start doing the same with scales. You'll find that with your major scale, or minor pentatonic, most people play it in boxes where they stay anchored to one or two different positions. When you map that scale out across the entire fretboard you will see the "in between" shapes and then you can practice those to create bridges or shift positions, which lets you play up and down freely without being stuck in boxes.

Taking lessons for theory will be much faster and easier (meaning, cheaper) if you already know your fretboard and musical alphabet.
 
Mastering your fretboard opens up a lot of doors, and will save you money on any future lessons. If you come in knowing all your note names and musical alphabet we can skip that part and really get into the meaty stuff that is harder to learn solo. Your goal should be to know every note, on every fret, on every string. You can pick any random spot on your bass and know what note you're playing.

There are plenty of videos and articles out there, but here's one method I find very useful to learn your entire fretboard:

Take a sheet of regular notebook paper and draw four vertical lines. These are your strings, and the blue horizontal lines are your frets. Draw a single horizontal line at the top, which marks your nut. On the margin, you can draw the circular fret markers (typically at frets 3, 5, 7, 9, 12, etc.) for reference. Once you have done this there are two approaches:

The first is to simply write the name of every natural note (ABCEDFG). IE mark your open E string, write F on the 1st fret, G on the 3rd fret, etc. Continue until you've filled in the entire neck with as many frets as your bass has, or 24, which is the most you see on standard basses. Once you've done that, draw a fresh blank diagram and do all the sharps and flats. Finally, combine the two and map out the entire fretboard. I find doing it in phases like this helps reinforce things, whereas if you just write it all at once you get on autopilot and stop really referencing the bass as much as just remembering your alphabet.

The second method is to pick a single note and fill out your diagram with only that note. For example, draw every C on your bass. Then, add every G, and now you have a root and fifth you can look at to see all the different patterns they form.

Once you can do this, start doing the same with scales. You'll find that with your major scale, or minor pentatonic, most people play it in boxes where they stay anchored to one or two different positions. When you map that scale out across the entire fretboard you will see the "in between" shapes and then you can practice those to create bridges or shift positions, which lets you play up and down freely without being stuck in boxes.

Taking lessons for theory will be much faster and easier (meaning, cheaper) if you already know your fretboard and musical alphabet.
Thanks so much for all this valuable info! I agree that actually handwriting it out would make it sink in easier and quicker.
 
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Hey all. First I want to say what an awesome forum this is, full of amazing and helpful people! Question for the group….lately I've been trying to up my game skill-wise. I was taking private lessons for a bit and that helped a lot, but now I'd like to see what I can do on my own without paying for it. I've tried one of the online bass lesson sites before (Scott's Bass Lessons or whatever it's called) and didn't really get a lot out of it.

I guess what I'm asking is what works for you guys to improve skill-wise, without going the paid lesson route? I'm trying to practice daily and right now I'm just working on the songs that we do in my band. I would consider myself an intermediate player. Thanks!
I'll let others give you ideas on lessons and paractice . For me the best thing in the world for improvement is to play with other musicians. The bass without other instruments is like an engine with no car. Sure, you can tinker with it and get its output up to 350 HP , but you aren't really getting anywhere.

If I was looking for study materials it would show you the basics, how to hold a bass, plucking techniques and some basic scales of course, but heavy on playing along with recordings/ other musicians so you can experience your work in context.

Think of it this way, without a target at the archery range, it's just arrows in the air. When you add in working with other players/band, you add in deadlines and accountability. Nothing like "learn this or we'll find someone else" for motivation.

Best wishes.
 
Use a metronome. Start slowly and concentrate on your time. Count rhythms away from your instrument and internalize them. Play along to unfamiliar styles. Learn theory. Play with the best musicians that you can.
And enjoy the process.
 
In my experience, having a teacher is the best motivator to practice fundamentals. The other day I was playing my bass on the deck and my pianist partner was talking about how much she liked Em7 on guitar (cuz it's one finger!). I started running minor seventh arpeggios with inversions around the circle on my bass and found myself struggling! What the what??? I've had that down cold for decades, but I haven't been in a good daily practice habit recently.

Without a teacher I often end up just practicing material for the next show or recording session. That kinda works, but it's definitely easier to pick up new material when I've been running scales and arpeggios daily. YMMV, but I find the accountability of weekly or bi-weekly lessons invaluable for maintaining a practice regimen and keeping the foundation shored up. I should look up my old teacher. 😂
 
I've been trying to do the same lately. I have no interest in theory which I realize goes against the grain. I've found that playing along with CDs has been my greatest help. I try to mimic what they are doing and in doing so, it opens up a lot of great technique for me. Playing right along with some of the greatest bass players has really helped. And playing with other musician live is always great!
 
What skill do you want to improve? Without the answer to that, you are not going to get a solid answer.

Sight reading - Find Etudes and read them (with metronome; adjust speeds as needed)
Speed/Dexterity - Scale/Chord Exercises
Performance Skills - Go Perform
Rhythm - Learn how to properly count rhythms and use a metronome
Improv - Learn Music Theory; run through chord charts outlining the chords and modal scales you might use for each chord; Run the songs and improv lines

Those are very basic not fully written out recommendations intended to show just how different the answer is depending on your goal. You should be asking what your goal is for any practice/lesson (structured private lessons or otherwise).
Do you have some examples of exercises you'd recommend for the various aspects you mentioned? I.e. etude examples, or good scale/chord exercises.
 
I have found it useful to think of my practice sessions in three parts:
1. Warmup - playing some exercises slowly with intention, just getting the hands limbered and used to being with the strings and the ears attuned to paying attention. Usually 10-15 minutes.
2. Technique - learning how to do new things and improving old things. This involves, in my case, lots of scale work all over the neck, arpeggios, patterns, etc. the trick here, IME, is to work on the same things consistently until you really have them down before moving on to new things. I heard an interview with Michael Brecker where he said he had to work on things for three months before they started to work on his playing - and he was one of those who practiced hours and hours each day.
3. Repertoire - learning new tunes, getting stuff ready for rehearsals and gigs, and applying the techniques to actual tunes. @Ed Fuqua's post on really learning a tune is worth reading on this front: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/really-learning-a-tune.304843/

When I have the luxury of being able to get in the groove of practicing a couple of hours a day 5 or 6 days a week I find I can really make progress. An hour a day is adequate for maintaining, but I At least try to play some most every day. And I agree that working with a teacher is the best way to make consistent progress. Best of luck on your journey!
 
Do you have some examples of exercises you'd recommend for the various aspects you mentioned? I.e. etude examples, or good scale/chord exercises.

I have Jeff Berlin Bass Mastery for Etudes. There are other sources, but I appreciate the lack of tablature in the Jeff Berlin ones. Not knocking anyone who needs tab (we all start there). However, tab clutters the page if you know how to read music. I encourage anyone who does not know how to read music to learn. It really helps your progression later on.

For scale/chord exercises, I do a few easier to describe ones....
- Pick a key and play model scales up/down the neck for that key. For example, start with C on A string 3rd fret. Play CDEFGABC, then DEFGABC (starting on 5th fret A for the D) continue in that fashion until I end with a CDEFGABC on the 15th fret of A string. Then do the reverse on the way down starting (CBAGFDEC starting with 17th fret C on the G string). This one is nice because the basic pattern works for every key. Use a metronome. Start slow and work your way up on tempo over the session and over time. Great exercise for me when building strength/speed and keeping time with a metronome.
- Chord exercise, I frequently do the same as the prior only just outlining the chords (1,3,5,7,8).

For harder to describe ones, they are all from string instrument fundamental books. Mine came from an old Violin exercise book, but you can probably find some written in bass clef. Even a horn fundamental book would probably work (I have seen similar exercises in French Horn and Euphonium books).
 
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Only recently I've decided to work every day to improve my skills. I wake up early in the morning (no matter what I do), roughly 2 hours before all other familly members, and I was waisting my time mainly scrolling on social media, so I decided it had to change.

I'm studying jazz walking bass, which is very far away from the music genre I play with my band. My goal is to improve my knowledge of the fretboard, get a better understanding of harmony and music theory, a better ability read score, to improvise and find quickly nice bass lines, etc. I have no intention to play in a jazz band, the goal is only to improve my general skills. Maybe I'll participate to a couple of jams when I'm ready, just to test my new skills in a real context, lol.

I split my daily practice in several categories:
- Learning and memorising great bass lines I've found on Youtube
- Practice scales, arpeggios and patterns, applied to the chord progression of the jazz standard I'm studying that day
- Read scores (I'm still very slow at the moment, but improving)
- Harmonic analysis of jazz standards
- Free practice of jazz standards with iReal Pro
All these activities complement each other well

So many free resources available on the web, it's crazy

It's been very rewarding so far.

Enjoy your journey!
 
The best practice regimen is a daily practice regimen
consistency of effort will trump everything else

after that, everything is flexible based on goals and gig demands.
as a general approach I like Mark J Smith's 5 point suggestion:
  1. reading
  2. songs and repertoire ( material you will / might gig with )
  3. ear training and transcription (i.e., listening and copying )
  4. improvisation and creativity
  5. applied harmony ( arpeggios, chord tones, chord progressions )

 
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Depends on your goals, and what level you are presently. Only thing that's important is to practice daily, as much as you can. Do not mistake noodling for practice. Practice takes structure and discipline and is not always playing music, or fun.
 
The late Jim Stinnett recorded many short lessons which I find very helpful and entertaining. He had a very unique teaching style, which could be titled "Practice along with me".


Jim and Rich Brown are my favorite teachers. Jim of course passed a few years ago, but his material is still there and solid gold IMO. The thing he always said was that people came to him wanting to jump right into the advanced material without doing the ground work first. He'd tell them something and they looked bored, would say "but I already understand that!" He would reply "Understanding is not knowing, unless you can do it."

He was also big at practicing "around the cycle," which many people fail to do. Great way to make sure you actually know the fretboard.
 
Jim and Rich Brown are my favorite teachers. Jim of course passed a few years ago, but his material is still there and solid gold IMO. The thing he always said was that people came to him wanting to jump right into the advanced material without doing the ground work first. He'd tell them something and they looked bored, would say "but I already understand that!" He would reply "Understanding is not knowing, unless you can do it."

He was also big at practicing "around the cycle," which many people fail to do. Great way to make sure you actually know the fretboard.
Yes, Rich Brown is great, too. I saw him 3 years ago with Steve Coleman and Five Elements, but didn't recognize him as the Brownstone Rich Brown until later when I watched a video of the performance on YouTube.
 
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Hey all. First I want to say what an awesome forum this is, full of amazing and helpful people! Question for the group….lately I've been trying to up my game skill-wise. I was taking private lessons for a bit and that helped a lot, but now I'd like to see what I can do on my own without paying for it. I've tried one of the online bass lesson sites before (Scott's Bass Lessons or whatever it's called) and didn't really get a lot out of it.

I guess what I'm asking is what works for you guys to improve skill-wise, without going the paid lesson route? I'm trying to practice daily and right now I'm just working on the songs that we do in my band. I would consider myself an intermediate player. Thanks! Deposit at Win Bet
What helped me most wasn't learning more songs, it was spending 15–20 minutes every day on fundamentals. Scales, timing exercises with a metronome, playing along to drum tracks, and learning bass lines by ear. It's not as exciting as learning songs, but the improvement really adds up over time.
If you're already gigging regularly, I'd also record your rehearsals and listen back critically. Sometimes the biggest gains come from fixing little timing and groove issues you don't notice while you're playing.